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Jesus Was Not A Jew

Jainarayan

ॐ नमो भगवते वासुदेवाय
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Premium Member
That true and a good point which show us how facts distorted through history even the name,so nothing else can be guaranteed to be true.

It's not a distortion, it's a translation. :facepalm:

Hebrew Yeshua -> Greek Iēsous -> Latin Iesus -> English Jesus. :rolleyes:

Neither Greek nor Latin have /sh/ phoneme. They follow their own language conventions of masc. nom. sing. inflections, hence the /us/ endings.
 

Caladan

Agnostic Pantheist
You said Jesus pbuh was practicing islam which is submitting to god. So why was he practicing Islam if we both submit to God. By extension of your reasoning, I should be practicing Islam also. But because according to you I don't, and both Jesus and I submit(ted) to God, your statement that Jesus was practicing Islam is false.
We are supposed to deny that a teacher who extensively discussed Jewish law, quoted the Jewish scriptures, preached in Jewish synagogues, called the Jewish temple in Jerusalem 'My father's house', and claimed to have come only for the Jews... was in fact Jewish.
And from that conclusion we are supposed to jump to the fact that he was in fact a member of a religion which was created centuries after Judaism and which relied extensively on Jewish lore and scriptures.
How incredibly educational. Truly an enigma solved.
I love it how Jesus and the Prophets of Israel are all Muslims, but finding a Muslim who ever read the words of the gospels or the words of Jeremiah the prophet is such a rare commodity.
Before Muslims can claim that either Jesus or the Hebrew prophets were Muslim, they need to actually know what these men have said.
 
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Jainarayan

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Premium Member
Yes, the enigma is solved. Now I think we should move on to the really important issues like... will Twinkies still be made, and if not what are we supposed to batter and fry!? Fried Oreos gets tiresome. :sad4:
 

outhouse

Atheistically
It's not a distortion, it's a translation. :facepalm:

Hebrew Yeshua -> Greek Iēsous -> Latin Iesus -> English Jesus. :rolleyes:

Neither Greek nor Latin have /sh/ phoneme. They follow their own language conventions of masc. nom. sing. inflections, hence the /us/ endings.


you forgot Yehosua which may have been his real name
 

Jainarayan

ॐ नमो भगवते वासुदेवाय
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Premium Member
you forgot Yehosua which may have been his real name

Yeah, I think there's a glottal stop... Yeh' shua, like the uh in uh-oh. Where's a Hebrew speaker when you need one? :p Either spelling means Joshua.
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
It's not a distortion, it's a translation. :facepalm:

Hebrew Yeshua -> Greek Iēsous -> Latin Iesus -> English Jesus. :rolleyes:

Neither Greek nor Latin have /sh/ phoneme. They follow their own language conventions of masc. nom. sing. inflections, hence the /us/ endings.

Names never translated,if i am george in USA,i'll be george in India or Spain,
What happened isn't translation,but distortion.
 

Jainarayan

ॐ नमो भगवते वासुदेवाय
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Premium Member
Names never translated,if i am george in USA,i'll be george in India or Spain,
What happened isn't translation,but distortion.

Bullcrap, your information is distorted, that's what's distorted. Stop while you're behind. In Spain you would be Jorge (hor-hey) or Yoryeh or Chorch. European Spanish does not have a phoneme for the /j/ sound in George. That's why a Spanish speaker will say "Yeep" for Jeep. In Latin America some dialects will do the opposite and pronounce 'yo' (I) as 'jo'.
 
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tumbleweed41

Resident Liberal Hippie
Names never translated,if i am george in USA,i'll be george in India or Spain,
What happened isn't translation,but distortion.

George
Gjergj (Albanian)
Gorka (Basque)
Jori (Finnish)
Giorgos (Greek)
Jorge (Spanish)
Jerzy (Polish)

etc, etc, etc....
 

outhouse

Atheistically
Yeah, I think there's a glottal stop... Yeh' shua, like the uh in uh-oh. Where's a Hebrew speaker when you need one? :p Either spelling means Joshua.


Yep :)


what im curious about is how he would have spelled it himself, if he possibly could spell it.


what was the oldest aramaic hebrew spelling from his time and place.
 

Jainarayan

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Premium Member
Jerzy (Polish)

etc, etc, etc....

Is that what George is in Polish!? I always saw the name Jerzy but didn't know it was George.

"Which way did he go George, which way did he go?"

"I'm going to pet him and squeeze him and hug him. If he's bad I'm going to rub his fur the wrong way" (I don't get out much :sad4:).
 

tumbleweed41

Resident Liberal Hippie
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Trey of Diamonds

Well-Known Member
Jesus was a Jew.
Christianity was a Jewish sect until Paul's version became dominate.
Paul's version of Christianity then became Romanized by Constantine.

So, modern day Christianity is the Roman interpretation of an offshoot of a Jewish sect.
 

Jainarayan

ॐ नमो भगवते वासुदेवाय
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Premium Member
what was the oldest aramaic hebrew spelling from his time and place.

I don't know about the other stuff, but Aramaic and Hebrew are separate languages, much like Italian and Spanish.
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
George
Gjergj (Albanian)
Gorka (Basque)
Jori (Finnish)
Giorgos (Greek)
Jorge (Spanish)
Jerzy (Polish)

etc, etc, etc....

So if my passport say George,then in Poland airport they'll call me Jerzy



i'll give you an example that your point is wrong,here is the translation of George from English to Spanish and you can try other languages if you wish

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tumbleweed41

Resident Liberal Hippie
So if my passport say George,then in Poland airport they'll call me Jerzy

If they wrote a book about George, and it was published in, oh lets say Korea, the title would read...

"Hogisim Maneun Joji" (호기심많은조지)
;)
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
If they wrote a book about George, and it was published in, oh lets say Korea, the title would read...

"Hogisim Maneun Joji" (호기심많은조지)
;)

George Michael in Polish article

Po przeprowadzce w 1975 roku George trafił do Bushey Meads Comprehensive School w Herts i tam właśnie poznał Andrew Ridgeley'a. Nieśmiały, ale zdolny syn greckiego emigranta, szybko zaprzyjaźnił się z wesołym, pewnym siebie Andym. Obu ich fascynowała muzyka, spędzali więc całe popołudnia i wieczory na słuchaniu i komponowaniu piosenek

Reference: George Michael
 
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