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God: Origins

confused453

Active Member
Assuming God exists, or existed at some point, if God were to question itself, like where does it come from, why does it exists, why create or destroy, what's the purpose of Godhood, are there more of its kind?

What if God would know everything about the universe, except about God's own origins? :banghead3 Wouldn't that drive God crazy? Creating humans could be the means of getting help on discovering the God's origins.

Any thoughts?
 

rusra02

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Assuming God exists, or existed at some point, if God were to question itself, like where does it come from, why does it exists, why create or destroy, what's the purpose of Godhood, are there more of its kind?

What if God would know everything about the universe, except about God's own origins? :banghead3 Wouldn't that drive God crazy? Creating humans could be the means of getting help on discovering the God's origins.

Any thoughts?

Humans cannot fully grasp the infinite. God has always existed and he always will. Revelation 15:3 calls Jehovah the "King of eternity." He is the source of all life. (Psalm 36:9) The Bible assures us about the true God; "there is no other God, nor anyone like me. (Isaiah 46:9) It is we who are limited, I think, rather than God.


 

arthra

Baha'i
Assuming God exists, or existed at some point, if God were to question itself, like where does it come from, why does it exists, why create or destroy, what's the purpose of Godhood, are there more of its kind?

What if God would know everything about the universe, except about God's own origins? Wouldn't that drive God crazy? Creating humans could be the means of getting help on discovering the God's origins.

Any thoughts?

Hmmm...God being "crazy"? And Who pray tell would be His psychiatrist to make that diagnosis? And what kind of co-payment would He make?
 

Riverwolf

Amateur Rambler / Proud Ergi
Premium Member
Assuming God exists, or existed at some point, if God were to question itself, like where does it come from, why does it exists, why create or destroy, what's the purpose of Godhood, are there more of its kind?

What if God would know everything about the universe, except about God's own origins? :banghead3 Wouldn't that drive God crazy? Creating humans could be the means of getting help on discovering the God's origins.

Any thoughts?

Why would a being who is in a state of existence so esoteric that language can hardly describe it, who regularly maintains every motion of the universe, and is thus inimitably connected with every single living creature within it, care about such matters?
 

chinu

chinu
Assuming God exists, or existed at some point, if God were to question itself, like where does it come from, why does it exists, why create or destroy, what's the purpose of Godhood, are there more of its kind?
Says God: To think.. that i may ask any question to myself, Or to think.. where do i came from, Or to think.. why do i exist, Or to think.. why i create or destroy, Or to think.. the purpose of my godhood, -- Needs time.

But.. As i always stay beyond time, due to which some people also call me as No-Time, So.. i don't have any time to think.. all this. :)

What if God would know everything about the universe, except about God's own origins? :banghead3 Wouldn't that drive God crazy?
What if you would have knowed your own origin, than you would have knowed everything, :banghead3 Wouldn't that drive you crazy ? :)
Creating humans could be the means of getting help on discovering the God's origins.
For whom ? :D
Any thoughts?
To think.. ? ;)
 
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The Sum of Awe

Brought to you by the moment that spacetime began.
Assuming God exists, or existed at some point, if God were to question itself, like where does it come from, why does it exists, why create or destroy, what's the purpose of Godhood, are there more of its kind?

What if God would know everything about the universe, except about God's own origins? :banghead3 Wouldn't that drive God crazy? Creating humans could be the means of getting help on discovering the God's origins.

Any thoughts?

What if God knew all of those answers, just that they aren't relevant to our human existence, as we're a whole different species.
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
Assuming God exists, or existed at some point, if God were to question itself, like where does it come from, why does it exists, why create or destroy, what's the purpose of Godhood, are there more of its kind?

What if God would know everything about the universe, except about God's own origins? :banghead3 Wouldn't that drive God crazy? Creating humans could be the means of getting help on discovering the God's origins.

Any thoughts?

Why god will think about himself while he gave us the ability to think ?
Could we think the same if we were cows,dogs..etc.

God were proud when he created humans with new features,the ability to think was one.
God challenged his angels to be as talented as adam in learning and the Angels failed as they only got the ability to receive and excute god orders and they got no free will at all.

And He taught Adam all the names, then showed them to the angels, saying: Inform Me of the names of these, if ye are truthful. (2:31)

They said: Be glorified! We have no knowledge saving that which Thou hast taught us. Lo! Thou, only Thou, art the Knower, the Wise. (2:32)

He said: O Adam! Inform them of their names, and when he had informed them of their names, He said: Did I not tell you that I know the secret of the heavens and the earth? And I know that which ye disclose and which ye hide. (2:33)

And behold, We said to the angels: "Bow down to Adam" and they bowed down. Not so Iblis: he refused and was haughty: He was of those who reject Faith.(2:34)

Say: He is Allah, the One and Only; (112:1)
Allah, the Eternal, Absolute; (112:2)
He begetteth not, nor is He begotten; (112:3)
And there is none like unto Him. (112:4)
 

confused453

Active Member
Humans cannot fully grasp the infinite. God has always existed and he always will. Revelation 15:3 calls Jehovah the "King of eternity." He is the source of all life. (Psalm 36:9) The Bible assures us about the true God; "there is no other God, nor anyone like me. (Isaiah 46:9) It is we who are limited, I think, rather than God.



What if it's a lie, and there're as many Gods as galaxies? Maybe this God wanted to test the humans for stupidity?
 
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Orias

Left Hand Path
Assuming God exists, or existed at some point, if God were to question itself, like where does it come from, why does it exists, why create or destroy, what's the purpose of Godhood, are there more of its kind?

I'd say, there is potential in the universe for there to be more of its kind.

What if God would know everything about the universe, except about God's own origins? :banghead3 Wouldn't that drive God crazy? Creating humans could be the means of getting help on discovering the God's origins.

Well to trace origin the best thing to do would be research the oldest known records of "God" and definitions that follow.

From this I would say he probably isn't completely aware of his origins or even himself. As for creating humans, well I'm not so sure he even created or influenced all of them.
 

rusra02

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
What if it's a lie, and there're as many Gods as galaxies? Maybe this God wanted to test the humans for stupidity?

But it's not a lie. The true God challenges all other gods to prove their godship. (Isaiah 41:21-24, Isaiah 43:9-13, 46:5-11) None have, though the challenge was made upward of 3,000 years ago.





 

confused453

Active Member
But it's not a lie. The true God challenges all other gods to prove their godship. (Isaiah 41:21-24, Isaiah 43:9-13, 46:5-11) None have, though the challenge was made upward of 3,000 years ago.
What makes that god true and other gods not? or is it like an alpha god (aka alpha animal)?
How do you know if god/bible is not lying?
 

George-ananda

Advaita Vedanta, Theosophy, Spiritualism
Premium Member
Assuming God exists, or existed at some point, if God were to question itself, like where does it come from, why does it exists, why create or destroy, what's the purpose of Godhood, are there more of its kind?

What if God would know everything about the universe, except about God's own origins? :banghead3 Wouldn't that drive God crazy? Creating humans could be the means of getting help on discovering the God's origins.

Any thoughts?

My thoughts are maybe we think that God thinks along the same lines as humans when in fact there's no comparison. For example where did God come from is what we ask just because our thinking of time is finite and linear. I'm thinking time doesn't exist for God as it does for us. Time might be part of his creation so we can percieve change. So maybe the whole question of 'how did God start' doesn't make sense as there was never a start. Our brains just have a hard time with the concept of infinity so we ask questions that don't make sense to the infinite.
 

Tristesse

Well-Known Member
But it's not a lie. The true God challenges all other gods to prove their godship. (Isaiah 41:21-24, Isaiah 43:9-13, 46:5-11) None have, though the challenge was made upward of 3,000 years ago.






By what standard do you get to use the bible? Have we determined it to be an accurate and reliable source for establishing "god" attributes, or even that a god exists? You cannot just quote bible versus without first explaining why we should take anything that bronze age book has to say on issues pertaining to the universe serously. Why don't you just quote harry potter, it'll get you to the same ends.
 

George-ananda

Advaita Vedanta, Theosophy, Spiritualism
Premium Member
Then why bother with God? Aren't humans supposed to be made from God's image?

We, while in a physical body, are a limited version of God. While God is limitless.

We have some knowledge while God has omniscence. So there are some concepts(like infinity) we can't grasp as well as God.
 
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