Do all roads lead to God?

[kjw47]

Then why is it so cramped?

It is cramped meaning a step off to the left or to the right is sin. Its a narrow path down the middle of the broad and spacious path that leads to destruction. Those who practice not sinning walk the cramped path.

 

[Muffled]

It is cramped meaning a step off to the left or to the right is sin. Its a narrow path down the middle of the broad and spacious path that leads to destruction. Those who practice not sinning walk the cramped path.

This is a recipe for disaster. The more one thinks about not sinning, the more one thinks about sinning. It is like thinking "I won't eat that cholcolate." The more you think about the chocolate, even negatively, the more likely it is that you will eat it.

 

[Father Heathen]

This is a recipe for disaster. The more one thinks about not sinning, the more one thinks about sinning. It is like thinking "I won't eat that cholcolate." The more you think about the chocolate, even negatively, the more likely it is that you will eat it.

Or we can dismiss the nonsensical notion of "sin" entirely. That's not to say that our character and conduct should be without morals or ethics. We should be guided by reason and compassion, rather than by fear of punishment for random, arbitrary nonsense.

 

[Muffled]

I do believe from what i have read in Gods written word we find that in Noahs day--it proved beyond the shadow of a doubt that all roads do not lead to God, but one road leads to God. Noah a servant of( YHWH) Jehovah-- as was Moses,David,Isaiah,Job,Lot,Daniel, etc-- every one of them served the true God--they all served YHWH(Jehovah) a single being God. So did Jesus-rev 3:12. 1 cor 15:24-28.
Without a single doubt in Gods written word,God never had more than a single religion that was his.Jesus came and started a single religion, united in love and peace worldwide.
The name Jesus taught his true followwers at John 17:6 is YHWH(Jehovah) and at John 17:1-6--Jesus said that his Father( the one who sent him-John 5:30) is the only true God. Paul taught the same at 1 cor 8:6) the trinity translations have been altered to fit catholocism council false teachings.

However Mohammed was one man who knew God and led others to Him and the Baha'l'ullah knew God and led others to Him, and conceivably Gurus know God and can lead others to Him.

One of my daughters had a Mormon lead her to God.

The Bible led me to God. That is a good thing because neither Moses nor Jesus were around at the time.

 

[Muffled]

Or we can dismiss the nonsensical notion of "sin" entirely. That's not to say that our character and conduct should be without morals or ethics. We should be guided by reason and compassion, rather than by fear of punishment for random, arbitrary nonsense.

You should check out my "How Does One Choose" thread.

God does not consider the notion of sin nonsensical. If a person is on a road of sin it is highly unlikely he will find God unless he becomes disgusted with himself and decides he needs a savior from sin.

 

[Father Heathen]

You should check out my "How Does One Choose" thread.

God does not consider the notion of sin nonsensical. If a person is on a road of sin it is highly unlikely he will find God unless he becomes disgusted with himself and decides he needs a savior from sin.

If there is a god, I'm sure that "he" would in fact find the arbitrary, man-made notion of "sin" to be quite nonsensical. God isn't your sock puppet.

 

[kjw47]

However Mohammed was one man who knew God and led others to Him and the Baha'l'ullah knew God and led others to Him, and conceivably Gurus know God and can lead others to Him.

One of my daughters had a Mormon lead her to God.

The Bible led me to God. That is a good thing because neither Moses nor Jesus were around at the time.

Men say they are leading one to God, but is it what Gods word shows? Jesus at Matt 7:21-23 clearly shows that not all who think they have found him or God actually have in reality. The israelites have known and served the true God for over 5000 years, yet God has rejected them because they reject his son, and they do not do the will of God. satan is posing as god in 99% of all religions on the earth. He always has.

 

[Quagmire]

It is cramped meaning a step off to the left or to the right is sin. Its a narrow path down the middle of the broad and spacious path that leads to destruction. Those who practice not sinning walk the cramped path.

Sometimes it's hard to tell the difference between a narrow path and a narrow mind. Maybe there isn't any.

 

[Pleroma]

"People who believe they will die first and then rise up are mistaken. If they do not first receive resurrection while they are alive, once they have died they will receive nothing"

(Gospel of Philip 73:1-5).

Gnosis is the only road that leads to God.

 

[Quagmire]

"People who believe they will die first and then rise up are mistaken. If they do not first receive resurrection while they are alive, once they have died they will receive nothing"

(Gospel of Philip 73:1-5).

Gnosis is the only road that leads to God.

Gnosis as in. . .?

 

[Pleroma]

Gnosis as in. . .?

Gnosis as in esoteric religions of the world.

 

[Me Myself]

All roads lead to wandering.

God is everywhere.

 

[Me Myself]

Doesnt one think that the humans in Noahs day had love and kindness for their friends and families? Or even those who lived in Sodom and Gommorah. Its those who serve the true God and live a righteous life, who walk the cramped road leading to life( eternal) --Few will find it.

LOL, the ones living in Sodom and Gommorah?

I am not sure by which definition you are going, but I don´t see "raping strangers" as being kind.

It is surely a cultural thing though

 

[Quagmire]

Gnosis as in esoteric religions of the world.

In that case, the "only road that leads to God" seems to be littered with a lot discarded junk food wrappers and discarded fast-food containers.

 

[Pleroma]

In that case, the "only road that leads to God" seems to be littered with a lot discarded junk food wrappers and discarded fast-food containers.

That's true, it is something which has been discarded both by modern science and the orthodox religions.

Valentinians say that only the spiritually mature can understand it and for others much of it seem like rubbish and nonsense.

"The scriptures are ambiguous and the truth cannot be extracted from them by those who are ignorant of tradition." (Irenaeus Against Heresies 3:2:1).

 

[Astravalon]

As someone who believes we all end up with God in the end anyway, I would say yes, all roads lead to God. Or, to put it another way, the one road -- life itself -- leads to God. Folks may be in different lanes (religions), but all are heading in the same direction.

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[Quagmire]

That's true, it is something which has been discarded both by modern science and the orthodox religions.

It's also something that's been mis-represented, mis-quoted, and mis-understood by a lot of modern "esoteric" wanna-bes.

That's the junk food I was talking about. Didn't say there wasn't an actual road beneath it, just that a wise person will always watch where they're putting their foot.

Valentinians say that only the spiritually mature can understand it and for others much of it seem like rubbish and nonsense.

Again: you're talking about the road, I'm talking about the rubbish alongside the road (I think someone who was capable of telling the difference between the rubbish and the road would have gotten that).

"The scriptures are ambiguous and the truth cannot be extracted from them by those who are ignorant of tradition." (Irenaeus Against Heresies 3:2:1).

Irenaeus didn't get out much.

 

[Me Myself]

Doesnt one think that the humans in Noahs day had love and kindness for their friends and families? Or even those who lived in Sodom and Gommorah. Its those who serve the true God and live a righteous life, who walk the cramped road leading to life( eternal) --Few will find it.

The cramped road you speak of is as big as the sky to which the plants grow towards in the parable of the seeds.

 

[Nakosis]

Men say they are leading one to God, but is it what Gods word shows? Jesus at Matt 7:21-23 clearly shows that not all who think they have found him or God actually have in reality. The israelites have known and served the true God for over 5000 years, yet God has rejected them because they reject his son, and they do not do the will of God. satan is posing as god in 99% of all religions on the earth. He always has.

So you maybe an evildoer and not know it.

Most people think themselves on the winning team, don't you?

You tell them by their fruit but people have convinced themselves that bitter fruit is sweet having no good fruit to compare.

What if instead of 99% of all religions are not doing the will of God, it's 100%? A person could presume to belong to a 1% which may not exist at all.

 

[Astravalon]

As someone who believes we all end up with God in the end anyway, I would say yes, all roads lead to God. Or, to put it another way, the one road -- life itself -- leads to God. Folks may be in different lanes (religions), but all are heading in the same direction. -

I just remembered something else... I believe God is omnipresent. So He's on the road right alongside us as well as waiting at the end of it.

That's all I wanted to add. Carry on!


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