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Georgia Parents Torture Adopted Daughter, Say They Were Just Following The Bible

Wannabe Yogi

Well-Known Member
Absolutely not.

Just because I think that beating kids is consistent with the Bible doesn't mean I think it's a good idea. I don't generally hold the Bible up as some epitome of goodness.

But.... He is better adjusted then I am. It would be great for my self esteem.
 

ZZKBKB55

New Member
Right on. And that's not all Je$us said in the New Testament:

Jesus said lots of hateful stuff that is ignored by Christians, such as "I come not in peace, but with a sword" etc. [...]
I don't see any religion of love here. There are many more verses like this in the NT.

How can you call yourself a Christian if you hate Christianity so much? I go over your posting history and nearly every post is anti-Christian. The ones that aren't are bending over backwards to defend any religion that's not Christianity.
 

Wannabe Yogi

Well-Known Member
How can you call yourself a Christian if you hate Christianity so much? I go over your posting history and nearly every post is anti-Christian. The ones that aren't are bending over backwards to defend any religion that's not Christianity.

Maybe he is like Job and he is ****** off.
 

Me Myself

Back to my username
No thanks I will use my standard attack plan. Atheism led to communism.
You of all people should appreciate the use of big Government as a rod that inflects great damage.

Atheism has no dogma. The bible is full of them, and tons of people try to read it as if it was the recipe book for a good life by Martha Stu.. I mean God!

:eek:
 

uu_sage

Active Member
Child abuse and child endangerment are illegal. It blows my mind that people can misuse the names of God and Christ for destructive and hateful purposes. This couple should never have been allowed to adopt or raise children period. I wonder why Georgia Child Protective Services hasn't responded yet. If they do respond, I can only hope and pray this child will be put into a loving, nurturing and accepting family.
 

Orias

Left Hand Path
Atheism does have dogma, and this is a perfect example of what the early Christians did.

You guys say its the people, but Christians have been doing this type of thing since its conception. Just look at the inquisition, just because most are passive now doesn't justify the past and the uneducated people's abuse of such literature.

People will continue to torture and kill in the name of the bible, because they have been doing it ever since they were able to read and interpret it. All you have to do is look at history, and what the bible claims will happen in the near future.

Good for those stupid rednecks, now we just need someone to torture and kill them.
 
Atheism does have dogma

Pure atheism in and of itself can be considered the lack of dogma, however there is no such thing as pure atheism, as to declare oneself an atheist in the first place, at least anywhere in the modern world, requires one to conceive of the concept of God first and then reject it.

New Atheism is far more dogmatic than Christianity or even Islam can ever be. It is not only dogmatic in rejecting God, but also in which values at large it chooses to promote. It is essentially a secular fundamentalism which is just as dangerous as other fundamentalisms in the world.
 
Pure atheism in and of itself can be considered the lack of dogma, however there is no such thing as pure atheism, as to declare oneself an atheist in the first place, at least anywhere in the modern world, requires one to conceive of the concept of God first and then reject it.

New Atheism is far more dogmatic than Christianity or even Islam can ever be. It is not only dogmatic in rejecting God, but also in which values at large it chooses to promote. It is essentially a secular fundamentalism which is just as dangerous as other fundamentalisms in the world.

Wrong:

Does Secular Fundamentalism Exist? Do Secular Fundamentalists Exist? What Would Secular Fundamentalism Be?

Neither the most specific characteristics of Protestant Christian fundamentalism nor the the general characteristics of religious fundamentalisms around the world have anything to do with any form of secularism. So, if secular political philosophy possesses none of the characteristics of fundamentalisms, why do people claim that such a thing as “secularist fundamentalism” exists? To put it simply, the label is meant as nothing more than a smear — it’s certainly not a neutral or objective description.

The first thing to note is that there is no attempt to use a serious definition of fundamentalism — those who claim the existence of a secular fundamentalism don’t, for example, list the characteristics of fundamentalism which they think secularism can fit. Instead, it’s clear that the label “fundamentalism” here is merely a convenient label for what is perceived to be inflexible dogmatism. This is ironic because real fundamentalists — Christian fundamentalists — are on the side of those making the claim in question. I wonder what they think about how the label for their religious position is being used by their putative “allies” as a form of attack.

The second thing to note is how secularism itself is commonly misdefined. Those attacking secularism use the label not as a political philosophy focused on separating civil and ecclesiastical authority, but rather as an antireligious or even anti-Christian philosophy. Sometimes, it’s even misdefined as a religion itself. It is tactically necessary to misdefine secularism because it would be difficult to arouse sympathy for opposition to keeping civil and religious authority separated.

The labeling of secularism as religious and as fundamentalist are part of the same goal: to discredit secularism as a political philosophy independent of religious disputes or control. There is no such thing a secular fundamentalism; instead, there are simply secularists who ardently fight for keeping church and state separated.
 

Orias

Left Hand Path
Pure atheism in and of itself can be considered the lack of dogma, however there is no such thing as pure atheism, as to declare oneself an atheist in the first place, at least anywhere in the modern world, requires one to conceive of the concept of God first and then reject it.

New Atheism is far more dogmatic than Christianity or even Islam can ever be. It is not only dogmatic in rejecting God, but also in which values at large it chooses to promote. It is essentially a secular fundamentalism which is just as dangerous as other fundamentalisms in the world.

Dogma is in everything man made, its just the principal in accord with how its supposed to be used.
 

InChrist

Free4ever
Anyone who is abusing a child is not following the Bible, but is acting totally contrary to the word of God.


"Children are abused and mistreated in several different ways, all of which are abhorrent to God. Too many children are the victims of angry beatings and other physical abuse as their parents take out their own anger and frustration on their children. Anger is almost always sinful, and anyone who abuses a child in anger commits multiplied sins. “An angry man stirs up dissension, and a hot-tempered one commits many sins” (Proverbs 29:22). There is no place for unrighteous anger in the life of a Christian, as Paul reminds the Ephesians: "In your anger do not sin: Do not let the sun go down while you are still angry, and do not give the devil a foothold” (Ephesians 4:26-27). Anger should be confessed to God long before it comes to the point of physical abuse against a child or anyone else. "

What does the Bible say about child abuse?

What does the Bible say about child abuse?
 
Anyone who is abusing a child is not following the Bible, but is acting totally contrary to the word of God.


"Children are abused and mistreated in several different ways, all of which are abhorrent to God. Too many children are the victims of angry beatings and other physical abuse as their parents take out their own anger and frustration on their children. Anger is almost always sinful, and anyone who abuses a child in anger commits multiplied sins. “An angry man stirs up dissension, and a hot-tempered one commits many sins” (Proverbs 29:22). There is no place for unrighteous anger in the life of a Christian, as Paul reminds the Ephesians: "In your anger do not sin: Do not let the sun go down while you are still angry, and do not give the devil a foothold” (Ephesians 4:26-27). Anger should be confessed to God long before it comes to the point of physical abuse against a child or anyone else. "

I think most people know this. The OP doesn't seem interested in facts, but rather smearing all Christians. It's sad that things like this are allowed to stand, but alas, in these times, people hate what is right and love what is evil.
 

love

tri-polar optimist
As a child of the street I have had the misfortune to have met many people whose intent was not particulary concerned with my well being and must say that very few of them were Christian.
 

Me Myself

Back to my username
Anyone who is abusing a child is not following the Bible, but is acting totally contrary to the word of God.


"Children are abused and mistreated in several different ways, all of which are abhorrent to God. Too many children are the victims of angry beatings and other physical abuse as their parents take out their own anger and frustration on their children. Anger is almost always sinful, and anyone who abuses a child in anger commits multiplied sins. “An angry man stirs up dissension, and a hot-tempered one commits many sins” (Proverbs 29:22). There is no place for unrighteous anger in the life of a Christian, as Paul reminds the Ephesians: "In your anger do not sin: Do not let the sun go down while you are still angry, and do not give the devil a foothold” (Ephesians 4:26-27). Anger should be confessed to God long before it comes to the point of physical abuse against a child or anyone else. "

What does the Bible say about child abuse?

What does the Bible say about child abuse?

If anger was always sinful then Christ sinned when taking the people out of the temple (and I agree it is sinful)

The bible says you can kill children that do not obey, so sure, it does not condone torture. Just lawful killing of children.
 

InChrist

Free4ever
As a child of the street I have had the misfortune to have met many people whose intent was not particulary concerned with my well being and must say that very few of them were Christian.

It is a sad thing that you have been ill treated by people and it is very sad if some who have had no concern for your well-being have claimed to be Christian, but claiming to be a Christian and actually behaving like one can be two very different things as is the case with those people in Georgia.
 

InChrist

Free4ever
If anger was always sinful then Christ sinned when taking the people out of the temple (and I agree it is sinful)

The bible says you can kill children that do not obey, so sure, it does not condone torture. Just lawful killing of children.

According to the scriptures unrighteous anger is always sinful. Jesus' anger was righteous and just, most human anger is self-centered and sinful.

The Bible does not say "you can kill children who do not obey". The laws including the one you refer to was for Israel alone for a certain period of time and was not meant to have blanket application for all people reading the Bible. This was for a specific reason concerning one God's purposes for the nation of Israel. It said a disobedient son should be stoned if he was stubborn, rebellious and refused to listen to his parents. If you will notice in the passage which speaks about this, the son who should be stoned was a glutton and drunkard. This was no naughty little child, but an out of control son who was a threat to the family, community, slandering the God of Israel of Israel and who was old enough to know better.In that culture and time period sons lived with their parents into adulthood.

If a man has a stubborn and rebellious son who will not obey the voice of his father or the voice of his mother, and who, when they have chastened him, will not heed them, then his father and his mother shall take hold of him and bring him out to the elders of his city, to the gate of his city. And they shall say to the elders of his city, ‘This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious; he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton and a drunkard.’ Then all the men of his city shall stone him to death with stones; so you shall put away the evil from among you, and all Israel shall hear and fear. Deut. 21:18-21
 
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Wannabe Yogi

Well-Known Member
We might ask what would we would do in a culture that survival was not a given and almost no governmental safety nets. You live in a society that a drought that lasts a year or two might mean the slow agonizing death of you and all those you love.
There are no programs for problem kids. No jails for problem adults. It takes the whole family to work just to live. Now add a child who is not only refuses to work for the common good but actually behaves in a way that hurts your chances of survival.

I am not saying we should kill kids. I am just saying it's just to easy to judge people of other cultures without walking in their shoes.
 
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