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Pork prohibited not only for muslims

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
Not only muslims shouldn't eat pork.
Facts about pork

[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]THE pig or swine is a very popular food item with most Christians. Yet Christians are unaware that the God they profess to believe in had condemned the eating of swine's flesh. The condemnation was based on some very sound biological principles. Here are some facts on pork that prove it to be a very unhealthy food to eat: [/FONT]

  • [FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]A pig is a real garbage gut. It will eat anything including urine, excrement, dirt, decaying animal flesh, maggots, or decaying vegetables. They will even eat the cancerous growths off other pigs or animals. [/FONT]
  • [FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]The meat and fat of a pig absorbs toxins like a sponge. Their meat can be 30 times more toxic than beef or venison. [/FONT]
  • [FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]When eating beef or venison, it takes 8 to 9 hours to digest the meat so what little toxins are in the meat are slowly put into our system and can be filtered by the liver. But when pork is eaten, it takes only 4 hours to digest the meat. We thus get a much higher level of toxins within a shorter time. [/FONT]
  • [FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]Unlike other mammals, a pig does not sweat or perspire. Perspiration is a means by which toxins are removed from the body. Since a pig does not sweat, the toxins remain within its body and in the meat. [/FONT]
  • [FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]Pigs and swine are so poisonous that you can hardly kill them with strychnine or other poisons. [/FONT]
  • [FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]Farmers will often pen up pigs within a rattlesnake nest because the pigs will eat the snakes, and if bitten they will not be harmed by the venom. [/FONT]
  • [FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]When a pig is butchered, worms and insects take to its flesh sooner and faster than to other animal's flesh. In a few days the swine flesh is full of worms. [/FONT]
  • [FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]Swine and pigs have over a dozen parasites within them, such as tapeworms, flukes, worms, and trichinae. There is no safe temperature at which pork can be cooked to ensure that all these parasites, their cysts,and eggs will be killed. [/FONT]
  • [FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]Pig meat has twice as much fat as beef. A 3 oz T bone steak contains 8.5 grams of fat; a 3 oz pork chop contains 18 grams of fat. A 3 oz beef rib has 11.1 grams of fat; a 3 oz pork spare rib has 23.2 grams of fat. [/FONT]
  • [FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]Cows have a complex digestive system, having four stomachs. It thus takes over 24 hours to digest their vegetarian diet causing its food to be purified of toxins. In contrast, the swine's one stomach takes only about 4 hours to digest its foul diet, turning its toxic food into flesh. [/FONT]
  • [FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]The swine carries about 30 diseases which can be easily passed to humans. This is why God commanded that we are not even to touch their carcase (Leviticus 11:8). [/FONT]
  • [FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]The trichinae worm of the swine is microscopically small, and once ingested can lodge itself in our intestines, muscles, spinal cord or the brain. This results in the disease trichinosis. The symptoms are sometimes lacking, but when present they are mistaken for other diseases, such as typhoid, arthritis, rheumatism, gastritis, MS, meningitis, gall bladder trouble, or acute alcoholism. [/FONT]
  • [FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]The pig is so poisonous and filthy, that nature had to prepare him a sewer line or canal running down each leg with an outlet in the bottom of the foot. Out of this hole oozes pus and filth his body cannot pass into its system fast enough. Some of this pus gets into the meat of the pig. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]There are other reasons grounded in biological facts that could be listed to show why pigs and swine should not be eaten. But a true Christian should only need one reason why not to eat this type of food because God prohibited it. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]"And the swine, because it divides the hoof, yet does not chew the cud, it is unclean unto you: you shall not eat of their flesh, nor touch their dead carcase." - Leviticus 11:7,8; Deuteronomy 14:8 [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]Those who say Christ abolished the law condemning pork are motivated by their stomach not Scripture. The problems with pork are biological, and Christ never changed the laws of biology. [/FONT]
Reference : Pig & Pork Facts

[youtube]tDRKSZvUtWo[/youtube]
Why pork - pig - ham is forbidden ? - YouTube
 

-Peacemaker-

.45 Cal
Safe pork is one of the many luxuries available when you don't live in a developing country. Allow me to introduce you to one of the wonders of creation


These are pork ribs. Slathered in barbecue sauce is the only way to eat them.


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God's gift to mankind. It's called bacon. You can put it on just about anything. Even desserts.


Cooked_Bacon.jpg





A holiday favorite. These are best when basted in a honey IMO.


sliced_ham-5892.jpg


I can promise you that you could spend a lifetime eating these foods and the only thing you might have to worry about is clogged arteries
 

Quagmire

Imaginary talking monkey
Staff member
Premium Member
Not only muslims shouldn't eat pork.
Facts about pork

[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]THE pig or swine is a very popular food item with most Christians. Yet Christians are unaware that the God they profess to believe in had condemned the eating of swine's flesh. The condemnation was based on some very sound biological principles. Here are some facts on pork that prove it to be a very unhealthy food to eat: [/FONT]

  • [FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]A pig is a real garbage gut. It will eat anything including urine, excrement, dirt, decaying animal flesh, maggots, or decaying vegetables. They will even eat the cancerous growths off other pigs or animals.


  • Doesn't really matter when you consider that, these days, the meat industry feeds almost all of their livestock the same slop (and what you describe above is a fair description for it).


    [/FONT]
    [*][FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]The meat and fat of a pig absorbs toxins like a sponge. Their meat can be 30 times more toxic than beef or venison. [/FONT]

    Only the fat absorbs toxins. And the fat of a cattle is just as toxin-absorbent as a pigs: fat is fat.

    [*][FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]When eating beef or venison, it takes 8 to 9 hours to digest the meat so what little toxins are in the meat are slowly put into our system and can be filtered by the liver. But when pork is eaten, it takes only 4 hours to digest the meat. We thus get a much higher level of toxins within a shorter time. [/FONT]

    It's actually the exact opposite: the longer it takes to digest something the longer the toxic matter stays in our systems. And I'm not sure that we actually digest pork faster than other meats. Do you have a source?

    [*][FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]Unlike other mammals, a pig does not sweat or perspire. Perspiration is a means by which toxins are removed from the body. Since a pig does not sweat, the toxins remain within its body and in the meat. [/FONT]

    Actually, pigs do sweat, just not very much, but then the same is true of cattle. Heat Stress In Beef Cattle | Iowa State University

    [*][FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]Pigs and swine are so poisonous that you can hardly kill them with strychnine or other poisons. [/FONT]
    [*][FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]


    Pigs aren't particularly resistant to strychnine or other poisons. Guinea pigs are, but they aren't pigs.

    Farmers will often pen up pigs within a rattlesnake nest because the pigs will eat the snakes, and if bitten they will not be harmed by the venom.

    This is probably because of their fat, not any natural resistance to the actual venom:
    wiki said:
    The Hedgehog, the Mongoose, the Honey Badger, the Secretary Bird and a few other birds that feed on snakes are known to be immune to a dose of snake venom. Whether the pig may be considered so is still uncertain, although it is well known that, owing to its subcutaneous layer of fat, it is often bitten without ill effect. Snake venom - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    [*][FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]When a pig is butchered, worms and insects take to its flesh sooner and faster than to other animal's flesh. In a few days the swine flesh is full of worms. [/FONT]

    And even if this is true, all that means is that the pigs flesh is more attractive to scavengers.

    All I have time for atm, but so far you're source is scoring a zero.
 

Super Universe

Defender of God
When did Jesus say "thou shalt not eat pork"?

If you're going from the Old Testament, that's the Jewish part of the bible.
 

-Peacemaker-

.45 Cal
Christians believe God declared all foods clean in Acts


Acts:10
9 About noon the following day as they were on their journey and approaching the city, Peter went up on the roof to pray. 10 He became hungry and wanted something to eat, and while the meal was being prepared, he fell into a trance. 11 He saw heaven opened and something like a large sheet being let down to earth by its four corners. 12 It contained all kinds of four-footed animals, as well as reptiles and birds. 13 Then a voice told him, “Get up, Peter. Kill and eat.”
14 “Surely not, Lord!” Peter replied. “I have never eaten anything impure or unclean.”
15 The voice spoke to him a second time, “Do not call anything impure that God has made clean.”
16 This happened three times, and immediately the sheet was taken back to heaven.
 

mycorrhiza

Well-Known Member
What goes into a man's mouth does not make him 'unclean,' but what comes out of his mouth, that is what makes him 'unclean.'" - Matthew 15:11

Christians can eat whatever they want as long as it doesn't leads to the suffering of their brothers and sisters (Romans 14:15). By this logic, Christians shouldn't eat meat as the meat industry causes further starvation throughout the world.

Pork isn't less healthy than beef nowadays, though.
 

F0uad

Well-Known Member
Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man. (Matthew 15:11)
"Are you so dull?" he asked. "Don't you see that nothing that enters a man from the outside can make him 'unclean'? For it doesn't go into his heart but into his stomach, and then out of his body." (In saying this, Jesus declared all foods "clean.") He went on: "What comes out of a man is what makes him 'unclean.' (Mark 7:18-20)

Notice how the deceptive editors placed a note (in brackets) claiming that Jesus(p) made all foods clean. This is clearly false, and Jesus never uttered these words. The Gospels were written under the influence of Paul, who rejected the Jewish Law (Hebrews 5:13, Galatians 3:13)

The Gentile writers fabricated these words to make Jesus say that all foods are clean, thus supporting the Pauline doctrine. According to Matthew 5:17-20, 23:23, Jesus(p) came to preach the Jewish Law, and what does the Jewish Law say about eating pork?

And the swine, though he divide the hoof, and be clovenfooted, yet he cheweth not the cud; he [is] unclean to you.Of their flesh shall ye not eat, and their carcase shall ye not touch; they [are] unclean to you. (Leviticus 11:7-8)


And the swine, because it divideth the hoof, yet cheweth not the cud, it [is] unclean unto you: ye shall not eat of their flesh, nor touch their dead carcase.
These ye shall eat of all that [are] in the waters: all that have fins and scales shall ye eat:
(Deu 14:8-9)


The Bible prohibits the eating of pork. Jesus(p) never made permissible the consumption of ‘all’ foods, it was a Pauline innovation by the Gospel writers.

The Gnostic leader Marcion (d 140 CE) said that Jewish scribes were corrupting the Gospels by adding Jewish material into them. This proves that the four Gospels were originally composed by Gentile (pagan) writers.

Jesus only ate kosher meat and was forbidden to eat pig’s flesh.

Jesus said that he had come to uphold the law and not to destroy it one jot or one tithe. Jesus(p) was educated in the synagogue in Jerusalem from the age of twelve. He preached in the synagogue. He used to keep the synagogue clean. No Christian today can be found performing these actions. How many Christians have been even been circumcised in the manner that Jesus was? The services now held in today’s churches were developed long after Jesus(p) had disappeared. Many of them come directly from the pagan Graeco-Roman mythological rites. The prayers they use are not the prayers which Jesus(p) made. The hymns they sing are not the praises which Jesus(p) sung. Due to the innovations of Paul and his followers, there is no revealed teaching left as to what to eat and what not to eat. Anyone given a “Christian education” today eats what he feels like. Yet Jesus(p) and his true followers only ate kosher meat and were forbidden to eat pig’s flesh”.

The Gospels themselves imply that eating pork is forbidden, since Jesus murdered over 2,000 pigs by drowning them in the sea, and he will destroy the pigs on his Second Coming.

And he said unto them, Go. And when they were come out, they went into the herd of swine: and, behold, the whole herd of swine ran violently down a steep place into the sea, and perished in the waters. (Matthew 8:32, Mark 5:13)

The Pauline authors did not stop there. The Jewish Law prohibits the consumption of wine (Leviticus 10:9, Proverbs 4:17, 20:1). Yet according to the Gospels, Jesus is made to drink wine, praise wine, and even transform water into wine!

Do not drink wine nor strong drink (Leviticus 10:9)

Wine [is] a mocker, strong drink [is] raging: and whosoever is deceived thereby is not wise. (Proverbs 20:1)

For they eat the bread of wickedness, and drink the wine of violence. (Proverbs 4:17)

But they also have erred through wine, and through strong drink are out of the way; the priest and the prophet have erred through strong drink, they are swallowed up of wine, they are out of the way through strong drink; they err in vision, they stumble [in] judgment. (Isaiah 28:7)

Awake, ye drunkards, and weep; and howl, all ye drinkers of wine, because of the new wine; for it is cut off from your mouth. (Joel 1:5)

Whoredom and wine and new wine take away the heart. (Hosea 4:11)

Jesus is made to praise wine:

Neither do men put new wine into old bottles: else the bottles break, and the wine runneth out, and the bottles perish: but they put new wine into new bottles, and both are preserved. (Matthew 9:17)


Jesus is made to drink wine:

Verily I say unto you, I will drink no more of the fruit of the vine, until that day that I drink it new in the kingdom of God. (Mark 14:25)


Jesus is made to transform water into wine

Jesus saith unto them, Fill the waterpots with water. And they filled them up to the brim.
And he saith unto them, Draw out now, and bear unto the governor of the feast. And they bare [it]. When the ruler of the feast had tasted the water that was made wine, and knew not whence it was: (but the servants which drew the water knew;) the governor of the feast called the bridegroom, (John 2:7-9)


If the Gospels were written by the disciples of Jesus, then the miracle would have been reversed, the transforming of wine into water instead ofwater into wine. Jesus would never praise wine because it was the poison that caused Noah(p) to get drunk, and Lot(p) to commit incest according to the bible!

Noah(p):

And Noah began [to be] an husbandman, and he planted a vineyard: And he drank of the wine, and was drunken; and he was uncovered within his tent. And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father, and told his two brethren without. And Shem and Japheth took a garment, and laid [it] upon both their shoulders, and went backward, and covered the nakedness of their father; and their faces [were] backward, and they saw not their father's nakedness. And Noah awoke from his wine, and knew what his younger son had done unto him. And he said, Cursed [be] Canaan; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren. (Genesis 9:20-25)

Lot(p):

Come, let us make our father drink wine, and we will lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father. And they made their father drink wine that night: and the firstborn went in, and lay with her father; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose. And it came to pass on the morrow, that the firstborn said unto the younger, Behold, I lay yesternight with my father: let us make him drink wine this night also; and go thou in, [and] lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father.And they made their father drink wine that night also: and the younger arose, and lay with him; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose. Thus were both the daughters of Lot with child by their father. (Genesis 19:33-26)

Although these stories are false because they teaches blasphemy against the holy Prophets Noah and Lot, they still convey a moral lesson for mankind that alcohol (wine) is the most dangerous substance that should be rejected by the true followers of Jesus.

Matthew 5:17-20:
"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfil them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven."
 
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Looncall

Well-Known Member
Not only muslims shouldn't eat pork.
Facts about pork

[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]THE pig or swine is a very popular food item with most Christians. Yet Christians are unaware that the God they profess to believe in had condemned the eating of swine's flesh. The condemnation was based on some very sound biological principles. Here are some facts on pork that prove it to be a very unhealthy food to eat: [/FONT]

  • [FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]A pig is a real garbage gut. It will eat anything including urine, excrement, dirt, decaying animal flesh, maggots, or decaying vegetables. They will even eat the cancerous growths off other pigs or animals. [/FONT]
  • [FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]The meat and fat of a pig absorbs toxins like a sponge. Their meat can be 30 times more toxic than beef or venison. [/FONT]
  • [FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]When eating beef or venison, it takes 8 to 9 hours to digest the meat so what little toxins are in the meat are slowly put into our system and can be filtered by the liver. But when pork is eaten, it takes only 4 hours to digest the meat. We thus get a much higher level of toxins within a shorter time. [/FONT]
  • [FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]Unlike other mammals, a pig does not sweat or perspire. Perspiration is a means by which toxins are removed from the body. Since a pig does not sweat, the toxins remain within its body and in the meat. [/FONT]
  • [FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]Pigs and swine are so poisonous that you can hardly kill them with strychnine or other poisons. [/FONT]
  • [FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]Farmers will often pen up pigs within a rattlesnake nest because the pigs will eat the snakes, and if bitten they will not be harmed by the venom. [/FONT]
  • [FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]When a pig is butchered, worms and insects take to its flesh sooner and faster than to other animal's flesh. In a few days the swine flesh is full of worms. [/FONT]
  • [FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]Swine and pigs have over a dozen parasites within them, such as tapeworms, flukes, worms, and trichinae. There is no safe temperature at which pork can be cooked to ensure that all these parasites, their cysts,and eggs will be killed. [/FONT]
  • [FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]Pig meat has twice as much fat as beef. A 3 oz T bone steak contains 8.5 grams of fat; a 3 oz pork chop contains 18 grams of fat. A 3 oz beef rib has 11.1 grams of fat; a 3 oz pork spare rib has 23.2 grams of fat. [/FONT]
  • [FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]Cows have a complex digestive system, having four stomachs. It thus takes over 24 hours to digest their vegetarian diet causing its food to be purified of toxins. In contrast, the swine's one stomach takes only about 4 hours to digest its foul diet, turning its toxic food into flesh. [/FONT]
  • [FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]The swine carries about 30 diseases which can be easily passed to humans. This is why God commanded that we are not even to touch their carcase (Leviticus 11:8). [/FONT]
  • [FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]The trichinae worm of the swine is microscopically small, and once ingested can lodge itself in our intestines, muscles, spinal cord or the brain. This results in the disease trichinosis. The symptoms are sometimes lacking, but when present they are mistaken for other diseases, such as typhoid, arthritis, rheumatism, gastritis, MS, meningitis, gall bladder trouble, or acute alcoholism. [/FONT]
  • [FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]The pig is so poisonous and filthy, that nature had to prepare him a sewer line or canal running down each leg with an outlet in the bottom of the foot. Out of this hole oozes pus and filth his body cannot pass into its system fast enough. Some of this pus gets into the meat of the pig. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]There are other reasons grounded in biological facts that could be listed to show why pigs and swine should not be eaten. But a true Christian should only need one reason why not to eat this type of food because God prohibited it. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]"And the swine, because it divides the hoof, yet does not chew the cud, it is unclean unto you: you shall not eat of their flesh, nor touch their dead carcase." - Leviticus 11:7,8; Deuteronomy 14:8 [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]Those who say Christ abolished the law condemning pork are motivated by their stomach not Scripture. The problems with pork are biological, and Christ never changed the laws of biology. [/FONT]
Reference : Pig & Pork Facts

[youtube]tDRKSZvUtWo[/youtube]
Why pork - pig - ham is forbidden ? - YouTube


These restrictions made sense for desert societies who lacked the fuel needed to cook meat thoroughly. Other societies have had lots of fuel and done fine with pork.

You lot should stop trying to foist your taboos onto other people.
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
bacon+wrapped+dates.jpg


Mmm, crab wrapped in bacon.

It's okay, because they cancel each other out.

Seriously, though. Should we be heeding the advice of an ancient, primitive culture that stoned people to death for wearing mixed fabrics, rotating crops, working on the sabbath and for speaking to menstruating women, and who also subjugated women, condoned slavery and the beating disobedient slaves, and even sold their own daughters into sexual slavery?

No. No, we should not. The modern, civilized world has no use for such irrational, arbitrary superstitions.

Therefore, in conclusion, go forth and feast on delicious pig flesh.
 

Shermana

Heretic
Safe pork is one of the many luxuries available when you don't live in a developing country. Allow me to introduce you to one of the wonders of creation


These are pork ribs. Slathered in barbecue sauce is the only way to eat them.


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God's gift to mankind. It's called bacon. You can put it on just about anything. Even desserts.


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A holiday favorite. These are best when basted in a honey IMO.


sliced_ham-5892.jpg


I can promise you that you could spend a lifetime eating these foods and the only thing you might have to worry about is clogged arteries


Ah, you have not heard of Toxoplasma then. It's okay, practically no one is aware of it. That's why 60% of pork-eating Americans have it. It's pretty harmless until you get older or develop an illness. In a way, the Toxoplasmosis then becomes like AIDS, preventing your body from fully recovering.

Why not eat flies too? Why are flies off the menu? If you'll eat one animal that dines on feces, why not another? I imagine they have a nice crunch!

And why not eat human flesh too? Why is human flesh off the menu anyway? Because it would be murder? How about eating a freshly deceased corpse then. What's the problem? Too much cultural taboo? Why should you be worried about some society's Taboos when it comes to recycling the dead? Don't you all realize how much starvation could be avoided if you'd all stop burning and burying hundreds of pounds of perfectly good meat? Why not?
 
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Quagmire

Imaginary talking monkey
Staff member
Premium Member
Ah, you have not heard of Toxoplasma then.

Why not eat flies too? Why are flies off the menu? If you'll eat one animal that dines on feces, why not another?

Do you have any idea how many fly ribs it takes to make a decent meal?
 

Shermana

Heretic
Do you have any idea how many fly ribs it takes to make a decent meal?

Nah, you'd eat them whole like those little birds in France that cost $100 a piece.

Think about how fast they grow and develop. One fly farm could develop tons of fresh fly meat at such a low cost. The feeding would be so cheap. You simply use the fly room instead of the bathroom, and boom, no extra costs! It would even reduce your water bill.
 

-Peacemaker-

.45 Cal
Ah, you have not heard of Toxoplasma then. It's okay, practically no one is aware of it. That's why 60% of pork-eating Americans have it. It's pretty harmless until you get older or develop an illness. In a way, the Toxoplasmosis then becomes like AIDS, preventing your body from fully recovering.

I think somebody's being a little melodramatic here
 

mycorrhiza

Well-Known Member
So why not eat flies? Please explain. Why will you eat one creature who feasts on feces but not another?

I'm gonna go ahead and guess that it has to do with texture, taste and availability. There's nothing about eating pork that is more unhealthy than eating beef. Neither is very healthy in larger quantities (that is, the quantities that are consumed in most of the world), though.
 
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