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There is nothing in Kalama Sutta that supports Atheists

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Thank you paarsurrey, i agree with you largely. But I differ on a very imporatant point and that over-rules all other points.:D

From scriptures it would appear that Buddha talked of creator bramhA. However, I am certain, that unlike Islam, Christianity, and some schools of Hinduism, Buddha taught aiming for the reality higher than the Creator. He has never glorified or villified the Creator, since creator God is not apart from one's mind.

There is reason for this. Creation, as per Buddhism and a school of Hinduism is ignorance. Who will like to create a world full of rapes and killings?

I am not saying what is correct and what is not. I am noting my understanding borne out of study and practise.

Regards

Suffering is price for human life; one struggles against suffering all one’s life. All development takes place to alleviate suffering or its permanent shape in death. One prefers life not death. This is its secular part; in the spiritual part sin (agreeing to the call of Mara or Evil one) denotes death and to avoid sin and to do virtue is life in the hereafter.
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
From scriptures it would appear that Buddha talked of creator bramhA.

Writing on the stupas of the time of Ashoka also mention it.

Please give some Suttas of Buddha which from the canonical and or non-canonical scriptures that mentions Brahma the Creator with clarity whom Buddha believed in.
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
I understand that Buddha said in Sutta-Nipta ,The Chapter on Going to the Far Shore,in which the goal of conquering death is expressed that Buddha explains that birth and death do not mean anything to those who have overcome their ego thus becoming at one with God.

I could not locate it ; anybody to help in this respect, please.
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member

Not far from here do you need to look!
Highest existence — what can it avail?
Here in this present aggregate,
In your own body overcome the world!
Buddha - Questions of King Milinda

"Seek not rebirths afar in future states.
Pray, what could heaven itself advantage you!
Now, in this present world, and in the state
In which you find yourselves, be conquerors!"'

I don't think they match with one another.
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
I find it surprising that you constantly make claims as to the Buddha's beliefs without a thorough study of all the writings concerning the Buddha.

Confirmation bias?

There are no writing of Buddha from himself.

It is not possible to read all the writing by others concerning the Buddha.

Have you read all of them and remember them all the time?
 
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