human origins

[fantome profane]

thank you friend. You know i had original thought that was how it was done something about mummy faces or something but i allowed a freind to convince me otherwise.
so its about muscle marks? did the two thing i implied apply at all?

What you said was essentially correct, but I felt Pegg deserved a more thorough answer.

 

[Iti oj]

would you happen to have a source i could show my friend?

 

[FearGod]

Thanks for presenting the human embryo. But the questions still remains.What is the human origin? Because embryo is form in the womb and the womb is woman's part of the body. So where did the woman came from?

The answer is easy

The woman came from another womb and so on,till we reach to the first womb
which supposed to be Eve's womb.

But where the first ever womb came from,in other words how eve came without a womb.

The process of developing a human being is scientificaly a copmlicated one,so talking about nature,mutations,coincedences and so on dont make any sense to me
or just talking about a common anscetor for human and chimpanzee which even if
true then it will lead finally to the first anscetor and to the first womb.

so in order to produce a human being,then we need a sperm,ovum and a womb.

We will not reach to any valuable information regarding the secret of creation,
it is as similar as if we try to think how we can produce a planet.

But just studying bones in fossils back millions of years to say
"oh i find my first ancestor,he looks similar to chimpanzee"

Reference : Fertilisation Explained with Diagrams, Fertilisation in Human | Tutorvista.com

Reference: Reference for Fertilisation - Search.com

Reference : Confessions of a Cooperator: Late-term Abortions in the United States

 

[garrydons]

Thank you trruth. Adonai bless you

 

[tumbleweed41]

But just studying bones in fossils back millions of years to say
"oh i find my first ancestor,he looks similar to chimpanzee"

If only you would aptly the level of dedication that you give Qur'anic apologetics to anthropology, biology and genetics, you could be a brilliant man.

 

[McBell]

Well, that settles it. We are just overdeveloped leaches.

Though I still have not figured out how we went from leeches to bubblegum...
let alone from leeches to bubblegum to humans....

 

[Pegg]

I hope this is an appropriate place to make this post.

Facial reconstructions based on skull bones is a highly developed science and has proven to be remarkably accurate. Muscles leave marks on the bones, and by examining these marks on the skull the facial musculature can be reconstructed. Data concerning gender and age, as well as certain racial characteristics can also be gleaned by examining the size and shape of the skull. This along with knowledge of facial anatomy and skin thickness allows forensic experts to reconstruct the face. Police departments often use these kind of techniques to identify remains, and as I said it has proven remarkably accurate. The only thing that can't be determined in this way is hairstyles, but aside from that these reconstructions should be considered very accurate.

Im sure very young sculls can be reconstructed in this way, but we are talking about fossil remains of partial skulls and isolated teeth. It is very rare that they will find a complete skull. and the other problem is that no one has ever seen extinct creatures, so when they do add facial features such as colouring and hair, its based on the apes that they have seen, not on the extinct apes they have never seen.

 

[FearGod]

Though I still have not figured out how we went from leeches to bubblegum...
let alone from leeches to bubblegum to humans....

That is the secret of the creation which we cant understand and we will never understand,how that leech overdeveloped to a human inside the womb,how that
piece will form the heart,lung,liver,spleen..etc to artery and arterioles which
have the length of around 161000 km(100000 miles) inside our body,the length of the intestine
is 10 times longer than the length of our body,our body is amazing.

So our bodies are created by logic and science by a wise entity,not by magic,
not by nature and coincedences,otherwise we will be morons to believe so (with my respect to all beliefs).

See also the amazing facts about a simple living thing called mosquito

1) Only female mosquitoes suck human blood. The males are nectar feeder, meaning that they are vegetarian. Therefore the naughty one is the female.
2) Mosquitoes have 100 eyes on his head. I wonder how much it will cost to buy spectacles for a mosquito.
3) They have 48 teeth in their mouth. I never thought they have even one because they are so tiny.
4) They have three hearts at the abdomen. How very lucky they are for having that much. However, they still do not live that long compared to human with one heart.
5) They have six knives in their trunk. Each one will be used for different task. If mosquitoes can cook, maybe they will be very good chef.
6) They have three wings on not just two like many people thought.
7) They are equipped with tools like infrared heat detectors that reflect the human skin into purple. This will enable them to see in dark so that they can start sucking the blood. This lamp is very cost effective because it only using natural energy resources.

They have the anesthesia tools. However, why feel itchy when they are on our skin? Human will only get itchy when the mosquito start sucking the blood.
9) They are equipped with a blood filter device so that they will suck certain type of blood.
10) The most remarkable thing to ponder is that the abdomen of a mosquito is a habitat for another kind of insect. This insect will only become visible under a microscope.
Read more: A Tiny Being with Amazing Capability | Scienceray

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The Miracle in the Mosquito

 

[McBell]

That is the secret of the creation which we cant understand and we will never understand,how that leech overdeveloped to a human inside the womb,how that
piece will form the heart,lung,liver,spleen..etc to artery and arterioles which
have the length of around 161000 km(100000 miles) inside our body,the length of the intestine
is 10 times longer than the length of our body,our body is amazing.

So our bodies are created by logic and science by a wise entity,not by magic,
not by nature and coincedences,otherwise we will be morons to believe so (with my respect to all beliefs).

See also the amazing facts about a simple living thing called mosquito

1) Only female mosquitoes suck human blood. The males are nectar feeder, meaning that they are vegetarian. Therefore the naughty one is the female.
2) Mosquitoes have 100 eyes on his head. I wonder how much it will cost to buy spectacles for a mosquito.
3) They have 48 teeth in their mouth. I never thought they have even one because they are so tiny.
4) They have three hearts at the abdomen. How very lucky they are for having that much. However, they still do not live that long compared to human with one heart.
5) They have six knives in their trunk. Each one will be used for different task. If mosquitoes can cook, maybe they will be very good chef.
6) They have three wings on not just two like many people thought.
7) They are equipped with tools like infrared heat detectors that reflect the human skin into purple. This will enable them to see in dark so that they can start sucking the blood. This lamp is very cost effective because it only using natural energy resources.

They have the anesthesia tools. However, why feel itchy when they are on our skin? Human will only get itchy when the mosquito start sucking the blood.
9) They are equipped with a blood filter device so that they will suck certain type of blood.
10) The most remarkable thing to ponder is that the abdomen of a mosquito is a habitat for another kind of insect. This insect will only become visible under a microscope.
Read more: A Tiny Being with Amazing Capability | Scienceray

I was being sarcastic.
I am not a fan of the Forer Effect.
Especially when weak faithed people feel the need to use it to boost their faith,

 

[FearGod]

I was being sarcastic.
I am not a fan of the Forer Effect.
Especially when weak faithed people feel the need to use it to boost their faith,

Where is the forer effect,what you are talking about?
Explain obviously, so we can discuss your point

 

[FearGod]

More research have been done on the leech stage
Please read here

 

[tumbleweed41]

And here is some great information on leeches...

All About Leeches Webpage

 

[FearGod]

And here is some great information on leeches...

All About Leeches Webpage

Thank you for the link

but that link is a general information about leeches
and nothing to do with biology

To understand the similarity between leeches and human central nervous system
Pls Check here

Also have a look to the image

This image shows the nervous systems of a medical leech and a human, side by side, illustrating that the basic segmental structure of the bilaterian nervous system is apparent in both

Reference : File:Human-leech-nervous-system-comparison.png - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[tumbleweed41]

Thank you for the link

but that link is a general information about leeches
and nothing to do with biology

:spit:

Nothing to do with biology......right.


By the way, can you tell me the difference between an invertebrate and a vertebrate?

 

[FearGod]

:spit:

Nothing to do with biology......right.


By the way, can you tell me the difference between an invertebrate and a vertebrate?

You are testing me with a hard question.
But i had learned that in the elementary school.

in short words

Vertebrates: are animal with back bones and classified as follows
Myxini , Cephalspidomorphi , Chondrichthyes , Osteichthyes , Amphibia , Reptilia , Aves , Mammalia.

invertebrate : animals which have no backbone or vertebrae and they are many
such as insects,spiders,earthworms,leeches...etc

What is my score sir?

 

[tumbleweed41]

You are testing me with a hard question.
But i had learned that in the elementary school.

in short words

Vertebrates: are animal with back bones and classified as follows
Myxini , Cephalspidomorphi , Chondrichthyes , Osteichthyes , Amphibia , Reptilia , Aves , Mammalia.

invertebrate : animals which have no backbone or vertebrae and they are many
such as insects,spiders,earthworms,leeches...etc

What is my score sir?

Did you know your so called nerve pictures were a comparison of an invertebrate with a vertebrate?

 

[FearGod]

Did you know your so called nerve pictures were a comparison of an invertebrate with a vertebrate?

the leech stage of fetus progress in the womb do not have yet the backbone,
the backbone will start on week 6,whereas the leech stage is on week 2,
hope that is clear to you now.

 

[tumbleweed41]

the leech stage of fetus progress in the womb do not have yet the backbone,
the backbone will start on week 6,whereas the leech stage is on week 2,
hope that is clear to you now.

The information for the backbone is contained in the fetus's DNA.
This information is not in a leaches DNA.


On a side note, how funny is it that in an attempt to legitimize your faith, you grasp at straws such as leaches and fetus's, and reject genetic evidence of biological evolution?

 

[FearGod]

The information for the backbone is contained in the fetus's DNA.
This information is not in a leaches DNA.


On a side note, how funny is it that in an attempt to legitimize your faith, you grasp at straws such as leaches and fetus's, and reject genetic evidence of biological evolution?

You are still absent or wanted to be so from my previous post which i showed you clearly that the fetus development in the womb as explained in the quran have been confirmed and approved by high professionals on the said science except if you got
a better knowelege than them all.

So it is not me who are attempting to do that,because it is already done by

) professeur keith Moore (USA)
is an eminent specialist in world fame in surgery and embryology. this professor wrote live named (the human development). this book was considered as a best work in the world, written by only one author.

2)Professeur Van Bersoud (canada)
is a professor of anatomy, pediatry, and obstetrics-gynaecology and sciences of the reproduction at the university Manitoba in Canada. He was there the president of the Department of anatomy during 16 years. He is very recognized in its field. He is the author or the editor of 22 handbooks and he published more than 181 scientific articles. In 1991, he received price more distinguished allotted in the field of the anatomy in Canada, the J.C.B., Great Price of the Canadian Association of the anatomists.

3)Professeur Joe Leigh Simpson (USA)
is a president of the Department of obstetrics-gynaecology, professor of obstetrics-gynaecology, and professor of human and molecular genetics in Baylor College of Medicine, in Houston, Texas, the United States.

4)Professor Marshal Jhonson
is a professor highly skilled of anatomy and biology related to the development at the university Thomas Jefferson on Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, the United States.

5)Professeur Gïrald C (USA)
is a director of program and lecturer of medical embryology at the cellular Department of biology of the Medical school from the Georgetown University in Washington, the United States.

6)Professeur Youchedi Kuzane (Japan)
is a professor highly skilled at the University of Tokyo with Hongo, Tokyo, Japan, and he was already a director of the national astronomical Observatory with Mitaka, Tokyo, Japan.

7)Professeur Tejatat Tejasen (Thailand)
is president of Autopsy Department in the University Chiang Mai in Thailand.. he was a senior of the Faculty of Medicine of the same university.
He embraced islam after reading the Quran

8)Professor William W. Hay (USA)
is a very known maritime scientist. He is a professor of geological sciences at the University of Colorado with Boulder, Colorado, the United States. Previously, he was the senior of Rosenstiel School of Marine and Atmospheric Science at the University from Miami in Miami, Florida, the United States.

9)Professor Alfred kroner (Germany)
is one of the world`s renowned geologists. He is Professor of Geology and the Chairman of the Department of Geology at the Institute of Geosciences, Johannes Gutenberg University, Mainz, Germany

So it is not me but that funny professors,what is your next brilliant attempts

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[tumbleweed41]

And lets not forget Dr. Bertram R. Forer

Forer effect - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Psychologist who demonstrated subjective validation.