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Why do Satanists use upside down crosses if they don't even believe Jesus/Yahweh exist?
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I curious about your statement of the cross being a fashion statement. I would estimate that most here are aware of it, and are also aware of that wearing a cross is a cultural left-over from a time of very deep superstition, and is for many people nothing more than adherence to a cultural norm that is so ingrained into our culture that few people question it.The cross is a two dimensional representation of a cube, like the pattern used to make a very simple box. It is a geometrical symbol, like the pentagram or hexagram. There is a current fad in jewelry -- which I guess most here being guys don't know about -- that is a sideways cross in a bracelet or choker necklace. Dunno about its metaphysical symbolism, but am guessing it is just trend following for the majority of wearers. Just like an upside down cross was a goth accessory, rather than a statement of belief in Satan, for many who wore one.
Satanism is a very strong denial of and opposition to Christianity. But I too have wondered why the upside down cross, because supposedly Peter was crucified in this manner which would, IMO, make an inverted cross a sign of even deeper subservience to Christianity as this person, like Peter, would not see themselves as being worthy of being killed in the same manner as Jesus.Why do Satanists use upside down crosses if they don't even believe Jesus/Yahweh exist?
However, it is quite a dumb Satanic symbol as it is actually St. Peter's cross, a symbol of not even being worthy to die the same way as Christ. Satanism suffers from this tendency to ignore historical fact quite often.
I used to post on a site that had a member who is Asatru and he had a signature "Your gawd died nailed to a cross. My God carries a big hammer. Any questions?"A cross seems pretty anti-God itself... It's wearing a killing device that killed your God! Now upside down... Things get interesting
I used to post on a site that had a member who is Asatru and he had a signature "Your gawd died nailed to a cross. My God carries a big hammer. Any questions?"
Why do Satanists use upside down crosses if they don't even believe Jesus/Yahweh exist?
Some stars can also be like this, such as the Star of David which will look the same standing on any point since it is composed of two equilateral triangles.I wonder if there was ever a deliberate decision to choose a religious symbol that would be unchanged when inverted. The only non-invertible symbol that comes to mind right now is the ying-yang.
Some stars can also be like this, such as the Star of David which will look the same standing on any point since it is composed of two equilateral triangles.
Some stars can also be like this, such as the Star of David which will look the same standing on any point since it is composed of two equilateral triangles.
Why do Satanists use upside down crosses if they don't even believe Jesus/Yahweh exist?
NO NO NO NO IT IS NOT A REACTION, at least not per se.Because Satanism is a reaction to Christianity, and therefore mocking it makes perfect sense.
It is for rejection / denial of Christ in Christianity. However, it is quite a dumb Satanic symbol as it is actually St. Peter's cross, a symbol of not even being worthy to die the same way as Christ. Satanism suffers from this tendency to ignore historical fact quite often.
I've seen more catholics revering st. peter display an inverted cross than Satanists, but whatever.
Inverting symbols is common throughout human history for every culture up until the act brought lawsuits. It acknowledges the existence of the opposite of what the symbol represents. I had a recent history tour through a Victorian cemetery where 1/3 or so of the grave stones had an inverted symbol of religious significance. The most common was an upturned flaming torch.
Satanism is the opposite of christianity, so an inverted cross makes sense.
I wonder if there was ever a deliberate decision to choose a religious symbol that would be unchanged when inverted. The only non-invertible symbol that comes to mind right now is the ying-yang.
edited to add: a single form can mean more than one thing, so it is silly to suppose that everyone who uses the form means the same thing. Not everyone who inverts the cross is ignorant of st. peter.
I use the upside down cross; I am a Satanist.
However, the reason I use it is quite simple... I also practice Vodou. It is a symbol of Saint Peter, and in Vodou, Saint Peter represent Papa Legba. Papa Legba is the holder of the keys, the guy you must impress in order to open the gates to the other Lwa. See what they did there? Also, when you look at the list of places Saint Peter is apparently a patron of:
Saint Peter - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Las Vegas? Hell yeah.
But eh, maybe I don't count, in that case. I do sometimes use the cross, for the irony of it all.