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My experience being in a gang

Vendetta

"Oscar the grouch"
I wish gangs would kill each other only and leave innocents alone. It seems that gangs are now just a part of life which is sad.

There are so many excuses for gangs but nothing is ever done to stop them.

Muslims can say the same about the US occupying Muslim lands. To some, our military is the biggest gang.
 

darkendless

Guardian of Asgaard
Muslims can say the same about the US occupying Muslim lands. To some, our military is the biggest gang.

For sure. Can't disagree with that.

We have gangs here who simply attack who they please. Its gutless pathetic behaviour. I'd love to see them all jailed for life for having no moral fibre and for causing physical and mental harm to people simply going about their business.
 

Vendetta

"Oscar the grouch"
For sure. Can't disagree with that.

We have gangs here who simply attack who they please. Its gutless pathetic behaviour. I'd love to see them all jailed for life for having no moral fibre and for causing physical and mental harm to people simply going about their business.

So in your view, instead of helping me, you'd rather see me locked away. If that were the case how would you know that I would be incapable of change? I am the living proof that you can change.
 

Twig pentagram

High Priest
I want to address the last sentence you made. Unfortunately the stereotype of young black males is that there is a common thought that black males are incapable of getting "out of the ghetto" or choose not to get out of the ghetto. I am living proof. I really like to advocate Judge Mathis because he too, being a former criminal himself and now a judge dispells the myth.
Judge Greg Mathis grew up on Joy Road. He still stop by my grandmothers house several times a year.
 

darkendless

Guardian of Asgaard
So in your view, instead of helping me, you'd rather see me locked away. If that were the case how would you know that I would be incapable of change? I am the living proof that you can change.

Whatever it takes to stop hooligans doing as they please and harming innocents. Nothing can justify random assaults. If it were up to me these people would be branded for all to see what pathetic scum they are. There is no justification for the actions I identified. Humanity would be better off without them.

We have bloods and crips rip-offs in Oz as well, they're absolute scum and a stain on society. Here its easy enough to do take a dole cheque for about 400 a fortnight. Instead these people choose crime and I wish our legal system came down on them like a tonne of bricks for being so stupid.

In your case did you beat up random people on your turf or whatever? Did you willingly break the law? If so well done that you've changed. You're a role model to others.
 

Vendetta

"Oscar the grouch"
Whatever it takes to stop hooligans doing as they please and harming innocents. Nothing can justify random assaults. If it were up to me these people would be branded for all to see what pathetic scum they are. There is no justification for the actions I identified. Humanity would be better off without them.

We have bloods and crips rip-offs in Oz as well, they're absolute scum and a stain on society. Here its easy enough to do take a dole cheque for about 400 a fortnight. Instead these people choose crime and I wish our legal system came down on them like a tonne of bricks for being so stupid.

In your case did you beat up random people on your turf or whatever? Did you willingly break the law? If so well done that you've changed. You're a role model to others.

No I didn't beat random people up. Majority of those I tusseled with were rivals (Crips, MS-13, 18 st) and cops.

I still think the gang element, and those within the gangs are largely products of their environment.
 

darkendless

Guardian of Asgaard
No I didn't beat random people up. Majority of those I tusseled with were rivals (Crips, MS-13, 18 st) and cops.

I still think the gang element, and those within the gangs are largely products of their environment.

Fighting cops? I don't think its wise of me to give my opinion on this issue.
 

Vendetta

"Oscar the grouch"
Well it does sound cliche'. It also seems pretty darn sad that you'd fight a bunch of guys doing their jobs trying to protect.

The whole point of this thread is to share my experience. Sure its sad to you. Hell, its sad that there are impoverished people in India. However the fact of the matter is when it comes to gangs if people aren't educated about it, people will continue to make abide remarks or continue to have stereotypical fears of racial groups in association with gangs.
 

darkendless

Guardian of Asgaard
The whole point of this thread is to share my experience. Sure its sad to you. Hell, its sad that there are impoverished people in India. However the fact of the matter is when it comes to gangs if people aren't educated about it, people will continue to make abide remarks or continue to have stereotypical fears of racial groups in association with gangs.

From my experience with them there is never a good side.

I've also found that most gangs seem to fit the stereotype at least in part which is even worse.
 

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
Whew, after reading all these stories, all I can say is I thank God my kids grew up in a small town. Around here in rural east Texas, the closest thing to true gang activity of any magnitude (as opposed to "wannabe" gang activity) is in the Hispanic community and seems to be a carry over from Mexico. Not that that's not bad - in fact it's AWFUL - but it's pretty limited to hispanic-on-hispanic violence.

It is however a terrible and fairly new element in our society, directly related to the rampant drug culture and drug war lord power struggles just across the border, and occasionally that culture of violence bleeds over into "gringo" culture (and by that I mean simply American - not just white - culture) locally.

In the local high schools, and in neighborhoods dominated by immigrants, illegal and otherwise, from Mexico, gang activity does run rampant. Yet another reason why we need to do more to secure our borders.
 

Vendetta

"Oscar the grouch"
From my experience with them there is never a good side.

I've also found that most gangs seem to fit the stereotype at least in part which is even worse.

History of bloods and crips came out of the 60's in which when the Black Panthers who were a black nationalist group, dissolved due to well, FBI infiltration. Because of racist pigs, excuse me, the Los Angeles Police department was targeting blacks at the time. So you basically had an evolution like the Black Panthers, and after the panthers you had individual gangs based on where you lived. On my street Piru, it wasn't bloods at the time. It used to be called Piru street boys.

The bloods and crips were the negative evolution from the gangs before them. The only real gang that was positive were the black panthers.
 

Vendetta

"Oscar the grouch"
I still think these kids need more help. Putting a starbucks or Subway in "the hood" doesn't change the fact that these kids need to be taught basic needs. However I will say this if our govt spent as much resources in helping black and hispanic gang bangers hang up their "rags" you can virtually eliminate gangs and replinish the ranks of the military X10 fold
 

Bismillah

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darkendless said:
Whatever it takes to stop hooligans doing as they please and harming innocents. Nothing can justify random assaults. If it were up to me these people would be branded for all to see what pathetic scum they are. There is no justification for the actions I identified. Humanity would be better off without them.
Given similar social, political, and economic circumstances the likelihood would be very much in favor that you would follow in their footsteps.

What do you think of the Latin Kings in Madrid?
 

Ilisrum

Active Member
My neighbors are MS-13, but they don't really bother with anybody. Most they do is throw wild parties till 4 in the morning and have the old ladies complaining.
 

darkendless

Guardian of Asgaard
History of bloods and crips came out of the 60's in which when the Black Panthers who were a black nationalist group, dissolved due to well, FBI infiltration. Because of racist pigs, excuse me, the Los Angeles Police department was targeting blacks at the time. So you basically had an evolution like the Black Panthers, and after the panthers you had individual gangs based on where you lived. On my street Piru, it wasn't bloods at the time. It used to be called Piru street boys.

The bloods and crips were the negative evolution from the gangs before them. The only real gang that was positive were the black panthers.

Blaming the police for the evolution of violent criminals is rather sad.

Its also painful to watch the race card get thrown around so loosely these days.
 

darkendless

Guardian of Asgaard
Given similar social, political, and economic circumstances the likelihood would be very much in favor that you would follow in their footsteps.

What do you think of the Latin Kings in Madrid?

Organised crime, violence, racketeering and murders? Scum is what i'd call the Latin Kings.
 
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