sandandfoam
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Has anyone apart from the Baha'i faith ever started from Islam and evolved into a religion that is Islamic but not mainstream?
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Hi Cordoba,Mainstream Islam is to believe in the six articles of faith, and practice the five pillars of Islam
One of the six articles of faith is belief in all of God's prophets and messengers, and that Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, was God's last prophet and messenger
Hi Cordoba,
First thanks for the response. I appreciate your taking the time to discuss this.
For the purpose of this discussion I accept that the Prophet (pbuh) is the seal of the prophets.
What I'm wondering is more along the lines of :-
Take me as an example. I find much that appeals to me in Islam, particularly how Muslims think of Allah.
On the other hand (and I mean no offence here but I want to explain my own thinking in order that you might address it) there are things in Islam that I couldn't adhere to.
For example, Islam seems overly rule-bound and strict to me. My attidudes are very liberal and on many subjects incompatible with Islam (e.g. regarding homosexuality).
I can't imagine myself ever praying 5 times a day and certainly not in Arabic.
I was wondering the other night if anyone with a world view like mine has ever taken a 'pick and mix' approach to Islam? One that would use the native language, be liberal etc etc?
Sufism would be the right path for you, then. It's Islamic but not too strict on rules and is quite liberal.
Thank you Chisti. I thought Sufism was built off a 'mainstream' base, i.e. 'the Five Pillars'?
That appeals.Yes, but one doesn't have to follow them strictly. One can also do 'unIslamic' stuff like meditation, singing, dancing etc., and hold totally liberal positions on gay rights issues, be pro-choice, and all that.
That's my bottom lineThe only thing that matters is communion with God.
No. I'm going googling now.Have you read Osho's books on Sufism?
Has anyone apart from the Baha'i faith ever started from Islam and evolved into a religion that is Islamic but not mainstream?
One of the six articles of faith is belief in all of God's prophets and messengers, and that Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, was God's last prophet and messenger
That appeals.
That's my bottom line
No. I'm going googling now.
Are you a mosque goer Chisti?
Anyway, Stephen, do read Osho's books and let me know what you think. He's very radical and shocking at times, but extremely creative and will make you see things utterly differently.
There seems to be a share of them. Where's a good place to start?
There seems to be a share of them. Where's a good place to start?
Yes, but one doesn't have to follow them strictly. One can also do 'unIslamic' stuff like meditation, singing, dancing etc., and hold totally liberal positions on gay rights issues, be pro-choice, and all that. The only thing that matters is communion with God. Have you read Osho's books on Sufism? That'll give you a good idea.
Sufism would be the right path for you, then. It's Islamic but not too strict on rules and is quite liberal.