PolyHedral
Superabacus Mystic
8 times the length of a side. (Scroll down to where it talks about circles) You see how far arbitrary definitions get us?
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If God created everything who created God?
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Tathagata
Freethinker
"The circumference is the distance around a closed curve." -- Circumference - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Squares aren't curves, thus it's impossible for a square to have a circumference. Simply drawing a circle around a square and finding the circumference doesn't count as being the square's circumference.
You see how far arbitrary definitions get us?
Nearly all definitions are arbitrary, but definitions have been laid out and set in stone, and must be in order to make words useful and language coherent.
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PolyHedral
Superabacus Mystic
Did you look at that article? It talks about what happens when you redefine what distance means, and so you end up with "circles" (shapes where all the points are the same distance from a center) that look like squares. Under this system, the circumference of a square is 8r. (And pi=4.)
Yes, but they don't say anything about the external world, unless you can show that the external world backs them up. Neither taxicab geometry or an eternal definition of God is supported by any external evidence.
McBell
Resident Sourpuss
She won't be the first Mrs. upset with me.
And I seriously doubt she will be the last.
McBell
Resident Sourpuss
You have this nasty habit of ignoring definitions that you dislike:
"WordNet (r) 2.0"
circumference
n 1: the size of something as given by the distance around it
[syn: perimeter]
2: the length of the closed curve of a circle
circumference
n 1: the size of something as given by the distance around it
[syn: perimeter]
2: the length of the closed curve of a circle
Blackheart
Active Member
When God is the master of time there is no begining and no end...Alpha and Omega. Time is an illusion that we use to create order. There is no time and therefore there is no begining. The creator provided us with the concept of time but he cannot be subject to it as he is the master of all things. He needs no creator and therefore describes himself as 'I AM'. Difficult to percieve but does exist just as the wheel.
McBell
Resident Sourpuss
Wow.
You really should offer warnings before you post.
Now I got bull **** all over my shoes.
Blackheart
Active Member
McBell
Resident Sourpuss
Interesting how you assume disagreement with your 'beliefs' is only due to lack of perception.As I said...difficult to percieve..especially for you
Blackheart
Active Member
No. There is also the Mestemia factor.
ellenjanuary
Well-Known Member
Where I'd argue (just 'cause I'm feeling argumentative, and can't have you thinking you know something about time
) Names himself - tell them, I am that I am - which is name. Which means, in the godly sense, ain't god. And wheel is a polygon of infinite side, indicating more a sense of forever than eternal... that's a double-double miss. 
Tathagata
Freethinker
You must be joking! Excuse me for not checking "WordNet" and every single other internet dictionary to avoid being accused of ignoring certain definitions! I never even heard of WordNet, so how could I ignore it? Ignoring something requires one to be first aware of a thing and then simply dismissing it or not addressing it.
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McBell
Resident Sourpuss
You like to hide behind your selective definitions.
"God" is one of your favourites.
McBell
Resident Sourpuss
Plum full of excuses, aren't you?
McBell
Resident Sourpuss
cir·cum·fer·ence
n.
1. The boundary line of a circle.
2.
a. The boundary line of a figure, area, or object.
b. Abbr. c or circ. The length of such a boundary.
[Middle English, from Old French circonference, from Latin circumferentia, from circumferns, circumferent-, present participle of circumferre, to carry around : circum-, circum- + ferre, to carry; see bher-1 in Indo-European roots.]
cir·cumfer·ential (-f-rnshl) adj.
Synonyms: circumference, circuit, compass, perimeter, periphery
These nouns refer to a line around a closed figure or area: the circumference of the earth; followed the circuit around the park; stayed within the compass of the schoolyard; the perimeter of a rectangle; a fence around the periphery of the property.
The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition copyright ©2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Updated in 2009. Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.
circumference
n
1. (Mathematics) the boundary of a specific area or geometric figure, esp of a circle
2. (Mathematics) the length of a closed geometric curve, esp of a circle. The circumference of a circle is equal to the diameter multiplied by π
[from Old French circonference, from Latin circumferre to carry around, from circum- + ferre to bear]
circumferential [səˌkʌmfəˈrɛnʃəl] adj
circumferentially adv
Collins English Dictionary Complete and Unabridged © HarperCollins Publishers 1991, 1994, 1998, 2000, 2003
circumference
1. The boundary line of a circle.
2. The boundary line of a figure, area, or object.
3. The length of such a boundary. The circumference of a circle is computed by multiplying the diameter by pi.
The American Heritage® Science Dictionary Copyright © 2005 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.
Tathagata
Freethinker
You realize that this whole thing is a Red Herring and completely misses the point right?
My original argument still stands.
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McBell
Resident Sourpuss
Only by hiding behind your circular reasoning and begging the question.
Tathagata
Freethinker
Merely asserting it doesn't make it so. Please demonstrate specifically where there has been an instance of circular reasoning and question begging.
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Skwim
Veteran Member
Whose definition, yours? As you told Mestemia, "Merely asserting it doesn't make it so."
And I imagine these characteristics are your "non-contingent and uncaused" ones.