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Peter King (R-NY) introduces gun control legislation

Bismillah

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I agree some people don't need gun and evidently you are one of them. You actually pay someone to preform violent acts on animals so you can eat. You are a sick person.
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Now you are moving the goal posts.
You really like to use labels that don't apply don't you? I already apologized for my word choice...what are you a lawyer.
 

Wannabe Yogi

Well-Known Member
So is slaughtering the things by the thousands, so is fishing. I guess you have a problem with me taking a deer? How about killing the dog that is terrorizing my animals? How about a bear that has my daughter cornered?

Shooting a rabid pit bull before it bites your child is an act of violence. It might be the correct thing to do, still it is violent.

I must say in many ways I would feel more secure at times with a gun. Still it goes against my beliefs so I live without it. It gives me a lot a satisfaction to make this type of sacrifice.
 
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Archer

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Shooting a rabid pit bull before it bites your child is an act of violence. It might be the correct thing to do, still it is violent.

I must say in many ways I would feel more secure at times with a gun. Still it goes against my beliefs so I live without it. The same is true with the teachings of Christ. It gives me a lot a satisfaction to make this type of sacrifice.

I have often wondered how to balance faith and necessity. All I can do is defer to Genesis and the fact that we are masters of the earth. Shooting people is not right but a man is to die as Christ did defending what he loved.

Ephesians 5:25Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her 26to make her holy, cleansingb her by the washing with water through the word, 27and to present her to himself as a radiant church, without stain or wrinkle or any other blemish, but holy and blameless. 28In this same way, husbands ought to love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself. 29After all, no one ever hated his own body, but he feeds and cares for it, just as Christ does the church— 30for we are members of his body. 31“For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh.”c 32This is a profound mystery—but I am talking about Christ and the church. 33However, each one of you also must love his wife as he loves himself, and the wife must respect her husband.

Am am to lay down my life if necessary to defend my family which is the wife first because she is the mother of the children and they are an extension of us. If I must take up arms I will do that.
 

Archer

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Shooting a rabid pit bull before it bites your child is an act of violence. It might be the correct thing to do, still it is violent.

I must say in many ways I would feel more secure at times with a gun. Still it goes against my beliefs so I live without it. It gives me a lot a satisfaction to make this type of sacrifice.


BTW I was not necessarily arguing definitions as much as I was the fact that even if he pays a hit-man it is still committed on his behalf. He needs to be a vegetarian.
 

McBell

Resident Sourpuss
You really like to use labels that don't apply don't you? I already apologized for my word choice...what are you a lawyer.
You went from:
pulling a gun in a situation will always escalate the violence

To
Right pulling out a gun when the other bloke has his own out isn't going put anyone in danger of getting hurt at all...right.
That is moving the goal posts.


It is not any fault of mine that you are unable to support your claims.
 

Archer

Well-Known Member
And put them at a greater risk?

I know victims of rape and molestation and many of them are dead inside. Look at many serial killers. Most in recent memory were victims.

I have known women and men that were sexually confused (caused by mental issues related to molestation or rape) and felt worthless. So if two crack heads came into my home I doubt they would get what they wanted unless they came in shooting.

There are three of us in my home that know how to use a firearm properly. My wife and daughter shoot to center of mass twice as I trained them and I will take the head shot because, yes, I am that good and that cold nerved.

So if my home is invaded I am not worried too much.

I do not carry a weapon because I do not live in fear and don't mind a fight and yes I have fought people with knives, and won.

So I guess what I am trying to say is go ahead and be a victim if you want. I respect that you will never own a gun and have no use for them.
 
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Reverend Rick

Frubal Whore
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And put them at a greater risk?
You state that like it is fact. Gone are the days of going along with terrorists and perhaps you will not get hurt.

Fathers have had to watch their teenage daughters being raped right before them.

Students at Virginia Tech where lined up and shot.

Perhaps an untrained person might make the situation worse by drawing a weapon, but many of us can defuse a situation in less than two seconds.

That is the tactical advantage of concealed carry. Bang, their dead, problem solved.

Most gun thugs are not very proficient shooters. People who receive training have background checks. That leaves the bad guys at a disadvantage.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ose72en9YfM
 
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Archer

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Just got this in an email: http://md16.embarq.synacor.com/service/home/~/41425-GunCONTROL_Shatner.wmv?auth=co&loc=en_US&id=70646&part=2

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And this says a lot
 
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