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Dusting out a seldom used forum

Reverend Rick

Frubal Whore
Premium Member
OK folks, this is a Conservative Only forum. I'm cleaning the dust out of this forum and taking it for a spin.

I guess my question to all three or four of us here in RF (J/K) is, are we a dieing breed?

The reason why I ask is, how many young conservatives do you see out there?

Do you believe some of the young folks will eventually become conservatives later on in life?
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Conserva.....whuh? I thought they went extinct?
I liked many of those guys.....& gals.
Are we libertarians allowed here?
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
OK folks, this is a Conservative Only forum. I'm cleaning the dust out of this forum and taking it for a spin.
Good luck with that, Rick.

I guess my question to all three or four of us here in RF (J/K) is, are we a dieing breed?
Hardly, Rick. I think part of the problem many of us find is that there is little possibility of meaningful dialogue with our "centrist" and "leftist" friends.

The reason why I ask is, how many young conservatives do you see out there?
Very, very few... but that is exactly what I would expect. Socialist abstractions are the pipe-dreams of the young.

Do you believe some of the young folks will eventually become conservatives later on in life?
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Any man who is under 30, and is not a liberal, has no heart; and

any man who is over 30, and is not a conservative, has no brains.
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is a quote often credited to Churchill whom it is very likely was paraphrasing sentiments expressed by others before him.

I can't speak for others, but it certainly is an accurate portrayal of the morphing of my own ideological convictions.
 
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Alceste

Vagabond
The young, as a general rule, are always more liberal than the old. This is because social values change over time. I am becoming more conservative as time goes on: When I was born, homosexuality was a still a dark, private secret that you would be persecuted for if any one discovered (job loss, violence, etc). Back then I was a radical for thinking that was wrong. Now I am mainstream vis a vis homosexuality and conservative for being sort of undecided about Canada decriminalizing polygamy.

At one point, you would have been thought a radical leftist for thinking women should be allowed to vote. Now, even hinting you might not approve of this development puts you off the scale in fascist wing nut country.

So, as a rule, conservatives are and always have been "a dying breed" in the context of any particular issue, but it's nothing to worry about. There have always been and always will be those who embrace social change and those who resist it. Don't feel bad because those who embrace it always seem to win. Both positions are reactionary - the change is happening of its own accord.
 

Panda

42?
Premium Member
Please remember this forum is subject to the same rules as a DIR. Only conservatives can post here or respectful questions from others.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Please remember this forum is subject to the same rules as a DIR. Only conservatives can post here or respectful questions from others.
That's why I wonder about us hybrids. So unless anyone objects, I'll comment only on economic conservatism (which I share) & keep my social liberalism limited to questions. Hey, conservatives....do you see libertarians as threat, ally or irrelevant?
 
What was disrespectful? The vague open ended announcements in the dir's should be made more clear.

Is a leftard what it sounds like, ie a left wing retard?
 

Alceste

Vagabond
That's why I wonder about us hybrids. So unless anyone objects, I'll comment only on economic conservatism (which I share) & keep my social liberalism limited to questions. Hey, conservatives....do you see libertarians as threat, ally or irrelevant?

I believe in a balanced budget, individual privacy, non-interfering foreign policy, small government, a good day's hard work, precautionary principle and all sorts of values that used to be conservative, but I guess I will pack my bags and leave you to it. :)
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I believe in a balanced budget, individual privacy, non-interfering foreign policy, small government, a good day's hard work, precautionary principle and all sorts of values that used to be conservative, but I guess I will pack my bags and leave you to it. :)
I'm in no position to judge your belonging here. But perhaps if we're civil, we won't get our knuckles rapped.

Anyway, my becoming economically conservative happened after entering the workforce, working for both gov't & private industry. It became clear that gov't is a hungry beast, & should be kept on a tight leash.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
We should be nice to our lefty friends. Some of them are smart but just have different values.....evil values.
 

Panda

42?
Premium Member
Conservative is right wing. It is more complicated than that obviously as one can be socially liberal but economically conservative and vice versa and everything in between
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
I still don't get who this forum is for. Can someone explain what a conservative is. I am only familiar with the term when used in relation to the Tory party in UK politics.

From the language so far it sounds like it is a euphemism for ultra right wing.

The basic gist is that conservative = social restrictions, but fiscal liberty. Liberal = social freedom, but fiscal restrictions. Libertarian = both social and fiscal liberty. And Authoritarian = both social and fiscal restrictions.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
The basic gist is that conservative = social restrictions, but fiscal liberty. Liberal = social freedom, but fiscal restrictions. Libertarian = both social and fiscal liberty. And Authoritarian = both social and fiscal restrictions.
I concur. Tis easy to forget that our usage of these terms is rather different from elsewhere.
 
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Father Heathen

Veteran Member
So this is a sub forum only for Americans?

No, only for conservatives. I don't see how nationality is even relevant.

I don't get what it has to do with religious education, but enjoy yourselves. :)
There is also a DIR for liberals, libertarians and socialists, so everyone should be covered.

Does anyone know if it is possible to ignore threads on rf. I think I will find being respectful while being called a left wing retard difficult.
Well, that's the DIRs for ya. There is always the option of not simply reading them.
 

Smoke

Done here.
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Any man who is under 30, and is not a liberal, has no heart; and

any man who is over 30, and is not a conservative, has no brains.
quotationmarksrightS.gif

is a quote often credited to Churchill whom it is very likely was paraphrasing sentiments expressed by others before him.

I can't speak for others, but it certainly is an accurate portrayal of the morphing of my own ideological convictions.

Churchill was rationalizing his switch from the Liberal Party to the Conservative Party, which had nothing to do with ideology or conviction and everything to do with political expediency. You knew that, right?
 
No, only for conservatives. I don't see how nationality is even relevant.

There is also a DIR for liberals, libertarians and socialists, so everyone should be covered.

Well, that's the DIRs for ya. There is always the option of not simply reading them.

I have been thinking about it and I've decided I do after all self identify as a conservative. So I don't need to ignore you, or be respectful. Just another fellow rightard being whatever it is we enjoy being here together in this lovely dust free sub forum.
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
Churchill was rationalizing his switch from the Liberal Party to the Conservative Party, which had nothing to do with ideology or conviction and everything to do with political expediency. You knew that, right?
The key element of the sentence was that Churchill was paraphrasing what others before him had said. Churchill's comment just is the most famous. Those whom Churchill borrowed the sentence from were pretty clear on what they meant.
 
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