Why do homophobic people bother?

[Mr Cheese]

I won't add to the pile-on, but I would like to discuss why anyone thinks gay marriage would lead to an eroding of rights and freedoms for our society in general. I don't feel it will, but I'm willing to hear others' thoughts.

Little Nipper or anyone else who feels this way, feel free to PM me anytime.

gay marriage would lead to more wedding dresses made of spandex

 

[enchanted_one1975]

I am starting to think Little Nipper had an experience in his childhood that brought on all this hate. You can't blame us all for the actions of one...

gay marriage would lead to more wedding dresses made of spandex

That concept is both neat and disturbing at the same time.

 

[I.S.L.A.M617]

obviously homophobe-ophobes are capable of "grinding" a certain minority group's "skulls".

and be careful with terms. everybody hurts people. homosexuals are just as capable of violence as homophobics, the majority of people who are hateful toward homosexuals never end up committing any acts of violence based on their beliefs

I probably should have been more clear, but I meant that being homosexual does not hurt anyone.

 

[enchanted_one1975]

I probably should have been more clear, but I meant that being homosexual does not hurt anyone.

Apparently it hurts the ego of some people because they think they are some kind of dictator who is supposed to tell people how to live. By refusing to conform to the wannabe dictator's ways we are defying his make-believe authority and must be dealt with.

 

[rafi]

i love how no matter how these posts start, they always end the same. the OP was not asking whether homosexuality was morally positive or negative, or the repercussions in society or family at large. the OP was asking why people from other religions tend to cross dogmatic boundaries when discussing the homosexual-behavior issue. it's not a common practice for abrahmic bible believers to drag a buddhist behind their truck because s/he works on sunday... yet many religious persons feel the need to spread their scripture out to many who dont endorse it on this particular issue. (although i guess, given a long enough time line, the religious in this world will find a way to persecute everyone they can for everything they can ad nauseum)

and then this garbage...


i think, after reading LittleNipper's brilliant opinion on the subject there are a few terms that need to be defined better.
having sex with an inanimate object is still not consensual. healthy homosexual behavior is consensual, so your fire-hydrant analogy doesnt work. common mistake for a man who has most of his sex with women; he cant imagine a world where a man would willingly have sex with another man- so he assumes all homosexual contact is rape.

sexuality is private. religion is private. marriage is public. politics are public. and society is not so fragile.

please start using definitive terms, it would really clear up SO much and ultimately cause you to have to post less, LittleNipper, and we would all love that.

and just because the world "homosexual" is in the thread does not mean everyone should just ignore the OP and post whatever they feel like.

This post eloquently and articulately assessed the entire situation and I find it extremely interesting that LilNipp didn't have the cajones to answer it. Probably because there's no rebuttal.
Well said, hopebound.

 

[LittleNipper]

If they accept then by your standards you have failed as a father as no one is putting a gun to their head. Forcing your morality on consenting adults whom are hurting no one is fascism, this is not up for debate, period. If you are even threatened by a homosexual coming on to one of your kids, then you have some serious issues more so than anyone that is homosexual.



This is a two way street. Now go through the mental gymnastics to explain how your homophobic sources are more objective.

You don't get it. It is like sticking candy on the table and walking out of the room or a pack of cigarettes on the counter and have everyone in the joint saying, "Hey, it's okay --- try it ---- you'll like it. You'll be just like GOD knowing both good and evil."
And hearing the ads on TV, on the computer, on the radio, in school. "Being GAY, is okay, do whatever floats your boat. It's all the same. Marriage is just a game. There is no good or bad --- only what you want to do."

Right now society hasn't progressed to this point, but I see it moving on down the ladder... Hey, some must have thought Sodom was a nice place to live ---- I mean, Lot and his family lived there so how bad could it have been...

 

[enchanted_one1975]

You don't get it. It is like sticking candy on the table and walking out of the room or a pack of cigarettes on the counter and have everyone in the joint saying, "Hey, it's okay --- try it ---- you'll like it. You'll be just like GOD knowing both good and evil."

This has absolutely nothing to do with homosexuality. I fantasized about males since I was 8 and my first wet dreams at age 13 were of males, even though I didn't "try it" until I was 15. You do seem to know a good bit about gay sex being better though. Would you care to share your experiences with us?

 

[yourhopeboundheart]

When I was a youn man, there was this person I wanted to murder. I hated his guts. I got into a fight with him and I didn't kill him. <b> Did that make me a murderer? </b> I had a choice. I chose not to kill him, though I'd have enjoyed beating his skull in at the time and had the opportunity.

It would only have reduced me to his level, and I didn't want to be like him...

well, according to your christ that <i>does</i> make you a murderer. and since you're the one who likes to follow 'his' rules, then you're a self admitted life-taker.

matt 5:21 / 1john 3:15

(and yes, i absolutely mean to split hairs)

but what is more important is that murder is often not consensual, whereas participating in sexual activity with a willing partner is consensual.

 

[no-body]

You don't get it. It is like sticking candy on the table and walking out of the room or a pack of cigarettes on the counter and have everyone in the joint saying, "Hey, it's okay --- try it ---- you'll like it. You'll be just like GOD knowing both good and evil."
And hearing the ads on TV, on the computer, on the radio, in school. "Being GAY, is okay, do whatever floats your boat. It's all the same. Marriage is just a game. There is no good or bad --- only what you want to do."

Right now society hasn't progressed to this point, but I see it moving on down the ladder... Hey, some must have thought Sodom was a nice place to live ---- I mean, Lot and his family lived there so how bad could it have been...

Yes because homosexuality is exactly like a pack of cigarettes or candy; a tempting drug that one must not give in to. Men with lisps dressed in only trench coats and vinyl sneak around the school playgrounds whispering in dark alleys... "psst hey kid, c'mere, first ones free"

Homosexuality has nothing to do with "trying it" and quite frankly your little heterosexual utopia, it would be exactly like the ones in the past. Men beating their wives and the rich and wealthy doing whatever depravities they want anyways while the poor stone whoever isn't secretive enough all while lip servicing the complete bull that is "traditional family values" A hypocritical dystopia.

 

[Perfect Circle]

I am starting to think Little Nipper had an experience in his childhood that brought on all this hate. You can't blame us all for the actions of one...

Yes... otherwise known as Ted Haggard syndrome.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Haggard#Scandal_and_removal_from_job

 

[Autodidact]

Why would someone care to encourage a nice, seemingly smart, handsome lady or gentleman form having sex with a fire hydrant? The answers to both are strikingly similar.

Wait, now before I send this delightful gem to FSTDT, let me make sure I understand you. What you're saying is that if two adults fall in love and want to devote their lives to each other and their relationship, and they both happen to be female, you can't see the difference between that and someone who wants to copulate with a piece of heavy equipment? Is that right?

 

[Autodidact]

That may be so, but only if he doesn't expect an endorsement of marriage (which is society's business)for what isn't anyone's business.

Do you?

 

[Rainbow Mage]

"Being GAY, is okay, do whatever floats your boat. It's all the same. Marriage is just a game. There is no good or bad --- only what you want to do."

Right now society hasn't progressed to this point, but I see it moving on down the ladder... Hey, some must have thought Sodom was a nice place to live ---- I mean, Lot and his family lived there so how bad could it have been...

What does being gay have to do with any of this? Being gay is natural, it's not related in any way to criminal offenses, but for some reason you seem to think it is. You seem to think that because society accepts gay people there will be more crime or something. Yes, being gay is okay. I'm sure that bothers you to hear. Being gay is great, wonderful, fabulous. As for Sodom, the Bible says in Ezekiel the sin of Sodom was fullness of bread and neglect to help the poor. So I'm not sure why people still associate Sodom with homosexuality.

 

[Autodidact]

Not really, we simply don't want that sort raising idiots who will then wish to run for politics.

What sort? Are you insulting my brilliant child, currently on a full scholarship to elite Pomona College, where she is pursuing a special major in Non-profit Organizations and Development?

 

[Autodidact]

At least I'm not a liar. You might not like what I have to say, but I do give my honest opinion and have a belief system to back it up. I also have a deep concern for society at large and not just my own wants and supposed needs.

Well I'm glad you have some saving graces.

 

[Rainbow Mage]

Little Nipper you seem to have very deep-seated issues regarding sexuality in general. Did something happen to you to make you like this? You say you don't want gay parents raising kids who will grow up to run for politics. What is wrong with that? This country allows anyone to run for politics equally. If you don't like that, perhaps you should leave and move somewhere else. As for your: "I have an opinion and a belief system to back it up"- so do I, and my belief system says homosexuality is perfectly okay.

 

[Mr Cheese]

Yes because homosexuality is exactly like a pack of cigarettes or candy; a tempting drug that one must not give in to. Men with lisps dressed in only trench coats and vinyl sneak around the school playgrounds whispering in dark alleys... "psst hey kid, c'mere, first ones free"

Homosexuality has nothing to do with "trying it" and quite frankly your little heterosexual utopia, it would be exactly like the ones in the past. Men beating their wives and the rich and wealthy doing whatever depravities they want anyways while the poor stone whoever isn't secretive enough all while lip servicing the complete bull that is "traditional family values" A hypocritical dystopia.

asexual....

lil nip is actually discusted by sex and no longer has it....

how do I know?
he is unable to breed
he views sex only for breeding

qed.....

 

[Autodidact]

Well, I do care that they may one day wish to have sex with either my children or my grandchildren or their children. No one is an island. Just because people think that they should be able to do whatever they wish doesn't mean that makes other people who disagree with them hypocritical, bigoted, or dysfunctional. And frankly, if anyone is dysfunctional, it is a person who feels that life without sexual engagement with people of the same sex to be a tragedy.

Well, shouldn't that be up to your children or grandchildren? btw, why are you so obsessed with sex, especially other people's sex? I do believe that life without love would be less ideal, for me, and I share my love with another woman. Losing her would greatly reduce my quality of life, and no, I don't consider that dysfunctional. Nor do the psychologists or other people who aren't troubled by an obsessive interest in other people's sex lives.

 

[Autodidact]

No, you likely feel that a good candidate is one that tells everyone anything they wish to hear and then once elected, they do whatever suits them --------------- it's your bed...

Can I put you down for the conclusion jumping event in next year's olympics?

 

[Mr Cheese]

What does being gay have to do with any of this? Being gay is natural, it's not related in any way to criminal offenses, but for some reason you seem to think it is. You seem to think that because society accepts gay people there will be more crime or something. Yes, being gay is okay. I'm sure that bothers you to hear. Being gay is great, wonderful, fabulous. As for Sodom, the Bible says in Ezekiel the sin of Sodom was fullness of bread and neglect to help the poor. So I'm not sure why people still associate Sodom with homosexuality.

neglecting bread is just like anal sex

at least, steve jones of the sex pistols used to use a loaf of bread for sex

maybe he is gay?