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Christians who oppose homosexuality

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ShakeZula

The Master Shake
they were an abomination to the jewish people, but if you read the new testament it said that we were allowed to eat any kind of meat, this law was created to make the jewish people stand out and be separate from teh other countries around it, because they didnt have the holy spirit to make them unique.

while these kinds of laws where gotten rid of in the new testament, as Im sure you know,

homosexuality and other moral laws were not.

Hm... so genital mutilation was not enough, huh? Fancy that.

What of braiding one's hair or wearing mixed fabric? Where was that overturned?

-S-
 

tarasan

Well-Known Member
Hm... so genital mutilation was not enough, huh? Fancy that.

What of braiding one's hair or wearing mixed fabric? Where was that overturned?

-S-

Indeed at a council in the bible, there was a general thought that Gentials where no Jews, (go figure) I dont have a bible with me right now, but I beleive there were only a few laws that had to be obeyed from that and even then they admitted a "tried their best" approach.

ill ignore your first statement, it doesnt really saying.
 

JMorris

Democratic Socialist
ill take slavery to sex over slavery to "god" any day. so my wonder is why the religious cant abstain in their worship of god. dont misunderstand me, i dont hate the religious, but in my ideology the worship of god is perverse & unnatural. religiosity is a lifestyle choice, and a perverse, corrupt, & immoral one at that. and the fact that these "people" can marry & adopt children is a clear example why the american family has been corrupted so.
 

Erebus

Well-Known Member
I've always thought that many of the Old Testament laws were more about survival as a tribe rather than divine commands on morality. Not eating shellfish or pork for example is a good way to avoid parasites, after all, there were no gas cookers to ensure the meat is thoroughly cooked. I imagine seeing the illness caused by poorly cooked shellfish could easily be interpreted as punishment from god at the time.
Homosexuality would slow down breeding, which is a problem for a tribe that seeks to expand and conquer. A lot of the Old testament laws made sense considering the time period and situation the Israelites were in.
Nowadays of course, our problem isn't underpopulation, it's OVERpopulation. Really it would make sense for God to actively encourage homosexuality.

Obviously I'm not a Biblical scholar so I can't claim this is anything more than theory.
 

tarasan

Well-Known Member
I've always thought that many of the Old Testament laws were more about survival as a tribe rather than divine commands on morality. Not eating shellfish or pork for example is a good way to avoid parasites, after all, there were no gas cookers to ensure the meat is thoroughly cooked. I imagine seeing the illness caused by poorly cooked shellfish could easily be interpreted as punishment from god at the time.
Homosexuality would slow down breeding, which is a problem for a tribe that seeks to expand and conquer. A lot of the Old testament laws made sense considering the time period and situation the Israelites were in.
Nowadays of course, our problem isn't underpopulation, it's OVERpopulation. Really it would make sense for God to actively encourage homosexuality.

Obviously I'm not a Biblical scholar so I can't claim this is anything more than theory.

hmmm nice point but......

Dagon doesnt love you......
 

LittleNipper

Well-Known Member
ill take slavery to sex over slavery to "god" any day. so my wonder is why the religious cant abstain in their worship of god. dont misunderstand me, i dont hate the religious, but in my ideology the worship of god is perverse & unnatural. religiosity is a lifestyle choice, and a perverse, corrupt, & immoral one at that. and the fact that these "people" can marry & adopt children is a clear example why the american family has been corrupted so.

Slavery to sex will likely gain you VD, etc. No one is saying you cannot have sex. They are only telling you that sex was created by GOD for marriage, and marriage as the bases for raising children begotten through such a relationship.

If you what it to be more than that, such should be on you and shouldn't be placed on society to agree with you for "your sexual enjoyment sake." Your opinion of my GOD doesn't hurt me in the least, as my opinion of your choices shouldn't bother you. But if they do, that might just be someone's guilty conscience looking for "moral" support...
 

Storm

ThrUU the Looking Glass
Slavery to sex will likely gain you VD, etc. No one is saying you cannot have sex. They are only telling you that sex was created by GOD for marriage, and marriage as the bases for raising children begotten through such a relationship.

If you what it to be more than that, such should be on you and shouldn't be placed on society to agree with you for "your sexual enjoyment sake." Your opinion of my GOD doesn't hurt me in the least, as my opinion of your choices shouldn't bother you. But if they do, that might just be someone's guilty conscience looking for "moral" support...
Or it might be revulsion and pity for your utter failure to appreciate one of the most wonderful aspects of life.
 

tarasan

Well-Known Member
If they're celibate, how do you know they're heterosexual? ;)

its was just an example of how hetros can be celebate, Gay people can be celebate to, hence the whole we are both slaves to sex thingy, and how the thing was irrational.

addmittedly i saw the guys point and i was just trying to be annoying :D
 

JMorris

Democratic Socialist
Slavery to sex will likely gain you VD, etc. No one is saying you cannot have sex. They are only telling you that sex was created by GOD for marriage, and marriage as the bases for raising children begotten through such a relationship.

dribble

If you what it to be more than that, such should be on you and shouldn't be placed on society to agree with you for "your sexual enjoyment sake." Your opinion of my GOD doesn't hurt me in the least, as my opinion of your choices shouldn't bother you. But if they do, that might just be someone's guilty conscience looking for "moral" support...

your opinion only bothers in as much as it effects another innocent group of people's ability to enjoy equal civil rights. if people like you didnt push your petty beliefs on society as a whole, id be more than happy to ignore your petty beliefs.
 

Storm

ThrUU the Looking Glass
My take is that such are not "sexual" at all. Sexuality is the performance of sex. If one isn't performing such would not be an issue, now would it...
Again you demonstrate your lack of appreciation. Sexuality is not limited to sexual acts.
 

LittleNipper

Well-Known Member
dribble



your opinion only bothers in as much as it effects another innocent group of people's ability to enjoy equal civil rights. if people like you didnt push your petty beliefs on society as a whole, id be more than happy to ignore your petty beliefs.

I don't see people being any happier now than they were 100 years ago. Frankly, I feel that your values (if they became the norm) would leave a sour taste in everyone's mouth.
 

JMorris

Democratic Socialist
;)

Originally Posted by Jeremiah
Can't give a straight answer? Is that because you don't have one?

Should homosexuals be put to death, LittleNippler?

This is rather funny, coming from a someone who would not consider himself "straight.":rainbow1:

i guess you dont have a straight answer. you could of simply said as much instead of furthering your bigotry. but your obviously beneath that.
 

Azakel

Liebe ist für alle da
firstly I can prove you wrong cause there are orders of monks who practice celebacy!
Who to say though whether those Monks are Heterosexual or Homosexual?
So your point is moot.

but lets be frank we are all "slaves" to sex (appart from the celebates) so i dont see the reasoning to it.
False. I agree with what Storm has said. Plus I do not fit this. Try again.
 
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