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Did Jesus say he was God???
- Thread starter Muffled
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...and in heaven there are only two (2) thrones mentioned to sit on at Revelation 3:21. Who gets to sit on those two thrones?__________
kemal kurniawan
New Member
Woa, a very interesting forum, im new and Islam, well a javanese islam means there some hinduism and budhism, so I do believe Isa (Jesus) is a son of God, Well we all are His son as in Gepeto to Pinokio. and He always beyond our imagination.
once again Great forum, wonder what God would say seeing this,... hahaha Sorry Big Guy
once again Great forum, wonder what God would say seeing this,... hahaha Sorry Big Guy
arimoff
Active Member
You trying to prove something to a Jew using Revelations? lol
One Revelation. Singular. Rev 3:21 mentions two thrones, so doesn't that at least indicate that God's holy spirit does not have a throne?
One throne for YHWH, and one throne for the one of Daniel 9:25,26.
arimoff
Active Member
one two ore three, doesn't make a difference, Revelation as a sacred religious text doesn't play any kind of a roll in Judaism, it is not even part of it so it really doesn't matter what it says there. If you haven't heard of it yet but Judaism one throne? monotheism.
Caladan
Agnostic Pantheist
You are not doing Judaism any favors with calling Christians pagans.
AK4
Well-Known Member
Nope an article for those who can know the Spirit and what spirit means. Those in in the jewish religion dont know what spirit is. All yall know is physical.
AK4
Well-Known Member
Do you even know the roots of the religion Abraham practiced? Do you even realise judaism is not monotheism? Do you homework on history, you know nothing of what you talk about
First of all, according to Greek Scripture Jesus believed he had a God (singular) over him while on earth (John 20:17B), and Jesus still believed he had a God (singular) over him decades later while in heaven (Rev 3:12).
Do you accept the Psalms? Who are the two 'Lords' of Psalm 110 ?
Who is the one of Daniel 9:25,26 ?
Dirty Penguin
Master Of Ceremony
arimoff
Active Member
I don't think Im looking for any favors, I see the opposite with some Christian reactions towards Judaism, so enough with sucking up, no matter how we try they don't like us, to most of those who still believe in Jesus, we killed their so called G-D and every so often they show it.
I haven't cursed or anything like that anybody here, thats not my style, but I do say how I see it is, there is nothing wrong with saying what you think is right as long as you don't use your hands to prove your point or force your way.
the prove is there, right under your statement, one page back.
AK4
Well-Known Member
One could say that but there is a difference at least in Christianity [not orthodox though].
Dirty Penguin
Master Of Ceremony
Ba'al
Active Member
Yes, before the revelation given to Mohammed the arabs had countless gods. It changed after they adopted Islam as their religion, as we know it strictly prohibits polytheism.
AK4
Well-Known Member
I agree with you when it comes to orthodox and mainstream christianity, but if one can come out of the doctrines the orthodox and mainstream created and actually follow the real doctrines of the scriptures then that is the difference.
Dirty Penguin
Master Of Ceremony
Right...but what's interesting is..."IF" Abraham and whoever else was to supposed to have built the Kabbah it's interesting how, at some point, polytheism won out thus idol/pagan worshiping practices controlled for so long. Or..Abraham was a polytheist and very early on the Kabbah was built for that purpose. (just opinions is all)...
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But according to Scripture Abraham did not worship many gods.
Genesis chapters 12 to 25 shows Abraham only had one God.
Gen 22:14.
Muffled
Jesus in me
I can count too. You have the god of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, that is three.