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OK, I don't care what your political or religious views are - this commercial is hilarious!

dust1n

Zindīq
I'd like to know more about that - source?

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Like, past evils?

How about WW2, producing Fanta to keep Coca-Cola plants in Germany operating and their employees paid, which also allowed Coca-Cola to restart normal production almost immediately after the war...

snopes.com: Fanta and the Nazis

Why historians say Coke invented Fanta to enliven Nazi soldiers


Or did you mean something more immediate?

Killer Coke's Casualties
Listed below are union leaders at Coca-Cola's Colombian bottling plants who have been murdered. Hundreds of other Coke workers have been tortured, kidnapped and/or illegally detained by violent paramilitaries, often working closely with plant managements.


Date Name Coca-Cola Plant
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1990 Avelino Achicanoy Pasto 4/8/94 Jose Elaseasar MancoDavid Carepa 4/20/94 Luis Enrique Giraldo Arango Carepa 4/23/95 Luis Enrique Gomez Garado Carepa 12/5/96 Isidro Segundo Gil Carepa 12/26/96 Jose Librado Herrera Osorio Carepa 6/21/2001 Oscar Dario Soto Polo Monteria 8/31/2002 Adolfo de Jesus Munera Lopez Baranquillahttp://www.corporatecampaign.org/killer-coke/pdf/KCBroch.pdf


From the Human Rights Committee of the American Anthropological Association:
http://www.aaanet.org/committees/cfhr/gill.pdf



Also, a 2009 study found that almost half of tested samples of commercial HFCS contained mercury, a toxic substance.[81]

And we wonder why autism is on the rise...
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
Like, past evils?

How about WW2, producing Fanta to keep Coca-Cola plants in Germany operating and their employees paid, which also allowed Coca-Cola to restart normal production almost immediately after the war...
How is that evil?

Also, a 2009 study found that almost half of tested samples of commercial HFCS contained mercury, a toxic substance.[81]

And we wonder why autism is on the rise...
Mercury is toxic, but please don't throw around the proven-false line of the antivaccination crowd that it's linked to autism. This mainly came out of worries about the vaccine preservative thimerosal, which one study claimed was correllated with autism. No other studies found any link at all, and the study that claimed it has now been retracted and its lead researcher has been found guilty of professional misconduct.
 

dust1n

Zindīq
How is that evil?

Marketing to both sides of a ideology war is not evil.

I mean, only a few million soldiers died for the sake of freedom, though Coca-Cola didn't take any risks. They would have been in business either way.

I call it 'douchebagery'.

Mercury is toxic, but please don't throw around the proven-false line of the antivaccination crowd that it's linked to autism. This mainly came out of worries about the vaccine preservative thimerosal, which one study claimed was correllated with autism. No other studies found any link at all, and the study that claimed it has now been retracted and its lead researcher has been found guilty of professional misconduct.

And the studies suggest back and forth forever...


Published in the March 10, (2006) issue of the Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons, the data show since mercury was removed from childhood vaccines, the reported rates of autism and other neurological disorders in children not only stopped increasing but actually dropped sharply – by as much as 35 percent.

Using the government's own databases, independent researchers analyzed reports of childhood neurological disorders, including autism, before and after removal of mercury-based preservatives.



According to a statement from the Association of American Physicians & Surgeons, or AAPS, the numbers from California show that reported autism rates hit a high of 800 in May 2003. If that trend had continued, the reports would have risen to more than 1,000 by the beginning of 2006. But the number actually went down to 620, a real decrease of 22 percent, and a decrease from the projection of 35 percent.



Stated the AAPS: "This analysis directly contradicts 2004 recommendations of the Institute of Medicine, which examined vaccine safety data from the National Immunization Program of the CDC. While not willing to either rule out or to corroborate a relationship between mercury and autism, the IOM soft-pedaled its findings and decided no more studies were needed."



- WorldNetDaily
 

Magic Man

Reaper of Conversation
IMO, I think there's something to this. I'm not opposed to buying products that are advertised, but when an ad is based on making a product part of my "lifestyle" and not just informing me that it exists or telling me about its benefits, I do wonder whether it'd be able to stand on its own merits if it weren't for the idea of wrapping it up in the idea of what it means to be cool or successful.

What I really hate about commercials these days is that many times they provide a very misleading picture of the situation. Like Freecreditreport.com. Also, many products don't tell you the whole picture. I hate it when a commercial tells you all the good things about the product, and then strongly emphasizes the one or two bad things about the competition. Like the Mac vs. PC commercials. Just tell me "Hey, our computers don't get viruses because no one's written any for us yet, but then again, ours cost 40% more than a PC". And yes, I hate the commercials that make it seem like drinking a certain drink or eating a certain food will make you cool and improve your love life or something.

I agree with you. Just tell me that your product is there, what it does, and in some cases what price range it's in.
 

dust1n

Zindīq
What I really hate about commercials these days is that many times they provide a very misleading picture of the situation. Like Freecreditreport.com. Also, many products don't tell you the whole picture. I hate it when a commercial tells you all the good things about the product, and then strongly emphasizes the one or two bad things about the competition. Like the Mac vs. PC commercials. Just tell me "Hey, our computers don't get viruses because no one's written any for us yet, but then again, ours cost 40% more than a PC". And yes, I hate the commercials that make it seem like drinking a certain drink or eating a certain food will make you cool and improve your love life or something.

I agree with you. Just tell me that your product is there, what it does, and in some cases what price range it's in.


That's basically what the first commercials were, which I'm alright with. It's the public relations involved in the situation. It's basically lies or half-truths.
 

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
Oh come on - you guys are taking marketing WAY too seriously. Surely you don't believe that if you drink Red Bull, you'll be suddenly cool.

It's the consumer's responsibility to research products before they buy them. As long as an ad campaign is not intentionally misleading or actually deceitful, I don't see the harm in the advertising.

We all advertise in our own way anyway. We send messages about ourselves and put out how we want the public to perceive us in the way we dress, the vehicle we choose, our furniture, our language, our hairstyle. We dress to present a certain image when we go on an interview (to "sell" ourselves). We act and dress a certain way on a first date (and if we're lucky, a second date).

Corporations just spend more money doing what we're all doing anyway.
 

DallasApple

Depends Upon My Mood..
I wouldnt deliberately not buy something I saw an ad for just becaause they embellish the product or service.

I like to read consumer reviews.Thats how I decided on a some baby products for my grandchild and a portable hand vac for example.

I actually got some good laughs reading some of the comments.Especially the ones where the people were ****** off to the point it read like they were spitting fire..Or they talked about the product as if it was the best thing that happened in thier life reading like a letter to your lover..LOL!!!>..

Love

Dallas
 

dust1n

Zindīq
Oh come on - you guys are taking marketing WAY too seriously. Surely you don't believe that if you drink Red Bull, you'll be suddenly cool.
Products and brand names have very sublime connotations. I have certainly seen people drink red bulls for that reason. Marketing is a multi-billion dollar industry. It wouldn't be if it didn't play a major role in society. Either way, a kid's perception of an ad is a lot different than an adult's.

It's the consumer's responsibility to research products before they buy them. As long as an ad campaign is not intentionally misleading or actually deceitful, I don't see the harm in the advertising.

Is that really the case? Should a company be allowed to produce toxic food, and then pass on the responsibility of the consumer to 'research it' themselves?

We all advertise in our own way anyway. We send messages about ourselves and put out how we want the public to perceive us in the way we dress, the vehicle we choose, our furniture, our language, our hairstyle. We dress to present a certain image when we go on an interview (to "sell" ourselves). We act and dress a certain way on a first date (and if we're lucky, a second date).

And it's a very sad reality. Really cheapens self-identity.

Corporations just spend more money doing what we're all doing anyway.

If a corporation was to put intact sound employment practices, ecological and health considerations, and incredible customer service, then they might convince to give them my money.
 
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