I thought this was interesting, because on another thread, Dan asserted that the Jews didn't cause Jesus to die and they have absolutely nothing to do with it.
Are you sure?
29Pilate then went out unto them, and said, What accusation bring ye against this man?
30They answered and said unto him, If he were not a malefactor, we would not have delivered him up unto thee.
31Then said Pilate unto them, Take ye him, and judge him according to your law. The Jews therefore said unto him, It is not lawful for us to put any man to death:
(The Jews wanted to kill him but it wasn't lawful for them to do so, then at the end of the conversation ....)
38Pilate saith unto him, What is truth? And when he had said this, he went out again unto the Jews, and saith unto them, I find in him no fault at all.
John 18:29-38 (KJV)
(I don't think he broke any Roman law. The Jews just wanted him to die)
Secondly, Jews were hanging people to the tree, no?
22And if a man have committed a sin worthy of death, and he be to be put to death, and thou hang him on a tree:
23His body shall not remain all night upon the tree, but thou shalt in any wise bury him that day; (for he that is hanged is accursed of God that thy land be not defiled, which the LORD thy God giveth thee for an inheritance.
Deuteronomy 21:22-23 (KJV)
So, they do hang people and bind them to trees, and there is a condition, the body should be buried that same day.
And yeah, something else ...
31The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (for that sabbath day was an high day,) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away.
John 19:31 (KJV)
So, any comment?
Jesus was executed by a Roman execution method (crucifixion), this is a clear indication that he was killed for violating ROMAN law, and NOT Jewish law, if it was the latter, he would be killed by an execution according to Jewish law.
Are you sure?
29Pilate then went out unto them, and said, What accusation bring ye against this man?
30They answered and said unto him, If he were not a malefactor, we would not have delivered him up unto thee.
31Then said Pilate unto them, Take ye him, and judge him according to your law. The Jews therefore said unto him, It is not lawful for us to put any man to death:
(The Jews wanted to kill him but it wasn't lawful for them to do so, then at the end of the conversation ....)
38Pilate saith unto him, What is truth? And when he had said this, he went out again unto the Jews, and saith unto them, I find in him no fault at all.
John 18:29-38 (KJV)
(I don't think he broke any Roman law. The Jews just wanted him to die)
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20Pilate therefore, willing to release Jesus, spake again to them.
21But they cried, saying, Crucify him, crucify him.
(Who was shouting? You guessed right, the Jews)
22And he said unto them the third time, Why, what evil hath he done? I have found no cause of death in him: I will therefore chastise him, and let him go.
Luke 23:20-22 (KJV)
Firstly, you can't prove he committed idolatry.On the side of the Jews, I see no blame as needed, many Jews rejected a man who according to Jewish monotheism committed idolatry while some Jews followed this man, though I doubt they thought he was God incarnate as this would go against Jewish monotheism, this man seems to have been treated as an instigator to the social order by the Romans, who have crucified him according to their own law. in Jewish history, there are many fascinating figures, and many of them died unpleasant deaths, Jesus, being another one of those interesting figures also had a bitter end according to the gospels, its an episode in history, and I'm not sure why anyone needs to take the blame.
Secondly, Jews were hanging people to the tree, no?
22And if a man have committed a sin worthy of death, and he be to be put to death, and thou hang him on a tree:
23His body shall not remain all night upon the tree, but thou shalt in any wise bury him that day; (for he that is hanged is accursed of God that thy land be not defiled, which the LORD thy God giveth thee for an inheritance.
Deuteronomy 21:22-23 (KJV)
So, they do hang people and bind them to trees, and there is a condition, the body should be buried that same day.
And yeah, something else ...
31The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (for that sabbath day was an high day,) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away.
John 19:31 (KJV)
So, any comment?