Mr Cheese
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Care to comment on the abyss?
the abyss....
it is the place between the conceptual and the non conceptual....
daath, knowledge...
more to come
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Care to comment on the abyss?
I cannot wait.more to come
Mr. Cheese...your nonsense never ceases to amaze me.
For the sake of those who are seeking to study Kabbalah in its true form, I offer this website.
Kabbalah is inseparable from the commandments of Torah. Kabbalah is based off of Torah, and Kabbalah without the Torah isn't Kabbalah. To even suggest that one could learn Kabbalah without observance of the mitzvot and without knowledge of Torah is absurd. If you don't wish to engage in nonsense and folly, you'll do well to ensure that you learn Kabbalah from an appropriate Torah-legitimate source.
It is pointless, I tried to explain he doesn't get it.
funny, the knight isnt even a Jew....
and yes
even kabbalah has fundamentalists, need I post Reb Laitman's comments on how all religions are false but kabbalah...?
If you guys know so much better....
why not actually shut me up..... instead of simply posting silly comments
who took away torah?One needn't be a Jew to study Kabbalah. But Kabbalah itself is structured upon the Torah. It's foundation is in the Torah. You take away the Torah from Kabbalah and all you have left is witchcraft or something. But it certainly isn't authentic Kosher Kabbalah.
the abyss....
it is the place between the conceptual and the non conceptual....
daath, knowledge...
more to come
funny, the knight isnt even a Jew....
and yes
even kabbalah has fundamentalists, need I post Reb Laitman's comments on how all religions are false but kabbalah...?
If you guys know so much better....
why not actually shut me up..... instead of simply posting silly comments
Witchcraft is nothing more than perversion of the uses of Kabbalistic wisdom. So yes, for every act of witchcraft, there is more than likely a holy counterpart in Kabbalah.
Lets not quote MR. Laitman, hi is no Kabbalist neither. What Knight was trying to say, if Kabbalah is part of Torah and Torah asks you to follow laws then by studying Kabbalah you should come to be a follower of those laws. I have seen people, some of them are my friends who attend lectures of Mr. laitman and they don't even understand what Torah is.
One of the big Mitzvot is to keep Shabbat, I have seen Mr. laitman give lectures on the internet on Shabbat, how can anybody call him a Kabbalist or even quote him as a Kabbalist.
And all those that you call fundamentalists are the real Kabbalists, they are the ones who made Kabbalah what it is today, and then have people come quote their teachings and then call them fundamentalists is absurd.
Read the biography of the ARI (Arizal) tell me He didn't follow laws of the Torah.
Imagine a huge junk yard full of discarded demons, imprisoned abominations beyond your wildest dreams. Then imagine that you must travel through this place unscathed to reach your destination.
Holding perfect balance between good and evil, right and wrong, just and unjust in every thought and deed.
Imagine the arrogance to believe you can achieve the ability to travel the path of Buddha, Jesus, Mohammad and the like. Imagine trying to traverse this journey to kether not from kether.
Every action must be balanced by an equal and opposite reaction instantly at the same time never once letting the scales become unbalanced for even a second.
Imagine being pure in thought and deed without a moment of doubt about your ability to traverse this place of nothingness full of things beyond your wildest dreams.
again I'll take the words and ideas of people who have been active kabbalists for decades over some guy in an discussion room online....
How much kabbalah have you actually read or DONE, besides reading a biography? lol
I can post words that contradict your idea...from practising Jews.....
But of course this arguemtn is largely, I suspect the old, I am orthiodox so you're not a real jew.... that is what tends to bring these ideas up....
Heck the Orthodox Jews are still upset that any kabbalistic texts even exist in english....
On that note, I dont see any point in discussing kabbalah here.... its simply beyond anyone here, and there are simply too many people who have backward ideas....
you've been practising kabbalah within a Jewish tradition for decades too huh?
or is it simply another case of someone online being an "expert"?
The fact that you see it as " I suspect the old, I am orthiodox so you're not a real jew" is disturbing to me. Because that's not what anyone is saying. If you truly study Kabbalah, you know that there are plenty of illegitimate sources of it out there (particularly sources that allow for the abrogation of divine commandments).
The fact is that Kabbalah is inseparable from the commandments of the Torah. To study Kabbalah and not follow the commandments is a lot like reading the table of contents of a book and thinking you know what happens.
Trees and forests
The die hard bamboozal us with repetitive diatribes of insolvable inadequacies when in fact the truths of the kabalah are relativity simple and represent the the thinking mans pillars to spirirtual success. So what if this is tangential to reality.
Cheers
sounds like you've been reading far too much alesteir crowley
who frankly was not a kabbalist, he had no access to reams of key important texts
crowley was a ceremonial magician
and I'm sorry to say, for all the "good" he did....
overall a junky is a junky....
Kabbalah itself is a huge subject....