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Did God say that?! I Rape in the bible

Rakhel

Rakhel

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All I have to say is this. Is the Tanakh and New Testament are corrupted copies, produce the original to show us how wrong we are.
 
Don Penguinoini

Don Penguinoini

Modi.
Zhakir said:
*Quran speaks about scientific facts,which were discoverd recently and couldn't be known at the time of Muhammad (pbuh),proving that it's the word of God
www.quranmiracles.com

*Quarn doesn't have a single scientific error or a contradiction,and i challenge any one to point out a single teaching of the Quran which is aginst humanity as whole.
Quran is free of errors
Women In Islam : WomenInIslam.ws
Welcome: The key to understanding Islam

while the bible is full of scientific errors,because it wasn't written by the creator rather by people who lived 2000 years ago who were cluless about science ,and who were evil to command people to do such acts,and forget what they say, and they are not one person so the bible is full of contradictions
www.evilbible.com
Status of women in Christian Society - Status of Women Throughout the Ages - WomenInIslam.ws

I am a fundamentalist muslim,following the fundamentals of my religion which are perfect(if you disagree then explain to us and we shall clearify)
There used to be fundamentalist christians or jews who,followed the evil teachings of the bible to spread christianity,or who Murder in the Bible and believed in the scientific errors (but not the contradictions because that's impossible).
but not most of christians, Now a days at least.
This is the difference
A fundamintalist muslim is a perfect human being according to God.
A fundamintalist christian doesn't exist,if followed these teachings of evil people he will be executed or go to jail trust me,and hell fire.
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LOL!!! You are so funny. Burn in fire or be executed. That is disgusting, and if that is what your religion teaches, then so is your religion.
 
Gharib

Gharib

I want Khilafah back
rakhel said:
All I have to say is this. Is the Tanakh and New Testament are corrupted copies, produce the original to show us how wrong we are.
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they were not revealed to the muslims of Muhammed (saws), but to the muslims of Moses (as) and Jesus (as). so how are we supposed to know them?

you should.
 
Rakhel

Rakhel

Well-Known Member
eselam said:
they were not revealed to the muslims of Muhammed (saws), but to the muslims of Moses (as) and Jesus (as). so how are we supposed to know them?

you should.
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Our words have not changed in over 3000yrs. Yours have. In fact, should we listen to the "Torah, which is G-d's word, anything that contradicts Torah is false. This would include the Koran(and the New Testament, but we won't go there right now. That is for another thread).
What you don't understand is a Jewish Scribe's livelihood is based on his job. He cannot afford to mess up. When writing the Torah, his writing must be exact. Every space, every letter. The right size, the right shape. Anything out of place on that scroll, he must throw out that scroll and start over. It is a tedious job.
You guys must have gotten one of the messed up scrolls that the scribes threw out.
 
C

challupa

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The most amusing thing about this whole thread is that all modern religions are just interesting twists on very ancient beliefs and religions. No religion is pure anymore, if it ever was! It's not something to argue over, because none of them are unique nor completely 100% right. If reading them helps you be a better person than go for it. If not then leave them alone. Each to their own. Zahir, you need to allow others to be who they are. If anyone should know, you should, that criticizing someone's beliefs is not going to change their minds about what they draw comfort from or believe. You yourself have been criticized and it hasn't changed your beliefs has it? Well the same applies to anyone else. You cannot change other's beliefs to match yours if there is nothing in your beliefs they can relate to.
 
sojourner

sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
eselam said:
they were not revealed to the muslims of Muhammed (saws), but to the muslims of Moses (as) and Jesus (as). so how are we supposed to know them?

you should.
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There weren't Muslims around when Moses was alive. There weren't even Hebrew writings when Moses was alive.:no:
 
Gharib

Gharib

I want Khilafah back
sojourner said:
There weren't Muslims around when Moses was alive. There weren't even Hebrew writings when Moses was alive.:no:
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well acording to the word Islam, it means submission to god, one god, and since moses did that, he too is a muslim. a muslim is defined as someone who submits to god. so since moses and his followers submited to god, they are muslims (islamic perspective. you do not have to believe it if you do not wish to)
 
sojourner

sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
eselam said:
well acording to the word Islam, it means submission to god, one god, and since moses did that, he too is a muslim. a muslim is defined as someone who submits to god. so since moses and his followers submited to god, they are muslims (islamic perspective. you do not have to believe it if you do not wish to)
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However you want to see it -- fine. But Moses and Jesus bear very, very little resemblance to today's Muslims.
 
kai

kai

ragamuffin
sojourner said:
Well ... Jesus was a Jew. Not sure we could include Moses in that category. But he is considered to be an Israelite, which places him more in that camp than in the Muslim camp.
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i have heard this before, when did israelites become jews then , or is it just a name.( i will just put the Muslim thing to one side ,just for a moment)
 
sojourner

sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
kai said:
i have heard this before, when did israelites become jews then , or is it just a name.( i will just put the Muslim thing to one side ,just for a moment)
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Judaism is a (relatively) new religion, within the scope of the history that's presented in the Bible. Islam claims Abraham as it's patriarch, too. In my understanding, the split between Isrealites and Ishmaelites occurred when Abraham expelled Hagar and Ishmael from the household. Isaac, the younger son, inherited (in line with the typical Biblical theme, upsetting primogeniture). Isaac was the father of Jacob, who, when he wrestled with God and prevailed, became known as "Israel," (meaning, "strives with God").

Not sure when Judaism, as it is recognized, emerged, but we're pretty sure it developed out of a blending of ancient Sumerian, Babylonian and Canaanite traditions. By the time Jesus appeared, however, Judaism was well-established as it's own religious entity.
 
kai

kai

ragamuffin
sojourner said:
Judaism is a (relatively) new religion, within the scope of the history that's presented in the Bible. Islam claims Abraham as it's patriarch, too. In my understanding, the split between Isrealites and Ishmaelites occurred when Abraham expelled Hagar and Ishmael from the household. Isaac, the younger son, inherited (in line with the typical Biblical theme, upsetting primogeniture). Isaac was the father of Jacob, who, when he wrestled with God and prevailed, became known as "Israel," (meaning, "strives with God").

Not sure when Judaism, as it is recognized, emerged, but we're pretty sure it developed out of a blending of ancient Sumerian, Babylonian and Canaanite traditions. By the time Jesus appeared, however, Judaism was well-established as it's own religious entity.
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Cheers sojourner, i will look around for some more info.

on with the show!
 
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