The Religious: why do they lie?

[Bishadi]

Thanks?

Peace!

When I decide what God is,

what is your definition of God? to you?

can we discuss this on this thread or do you believe we should open a thread specific, so others can participate and perhaps learn from the articulation.

the worst that can happen is we both learn a bit and that is perhaps why i awaken each day.

 

[gnomon]

then to answer your QUESTION in the fashion you performed; then you answer is easy found in asking yourself the question;

Why are you an atheist?

when you answer that, then you will have answered your inquiry on #19

any side stepping and you sill hanging your line out the back of the boat (trolling)

Dead fish on the shore are the easiest to catch.

edit:Almost forgot
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BoNmpvkavo&feature=related

 

[Bishadi]

Dead fish on the shore are the easiest to catch.

then perhaps you should get back in the water before you kill yourself

 

[Breathe]

what is your definition of God? to you?

That, madam, is the ultimate question. I have not decided what I concieve God to be, depsite over 1 1/2 years of spending every day considering it.

I suppose the Ultimate personal and impersonal Prime Mover and Supreme Creator, of whom none are equal or superior to, who resides within, and also beyond all.

can we discuss this on this thread or do you believe we should open a thread specific, so others can participate and perhaps learn from the articulation.

the worst that can happen is we both learn a bit and that is perhaps why i awaken each day.

I believe it would be within all interests to discuss it, if in public on the forum, in another thread so we do not detract from the original post, though PMs are fine with me too.

 

[Bishadi]

That, madam, is the ultimate question. I have not decided what I concieve God to be, depsite over 1 1/2 years of spending every day considering it.

Once Einstein was asked (Not verbatim)....

if he believed that if god created the garden; and the reply was to the effect, ' i believe he is the garden and i have been trying to catch him at his work"

my point is, in all time, over the life of existence, mankind has been chasing that exact frame of comprehension.

what helped me was noting God in most every religions as being the first, the last, the everything; Alpha/omega...

then in comprehending how physics described the universe, then it seem they also sumate that all existence is part of the singularity (ONE/Big bang)

then to observe we are the only thing in existence that can create a 'word' shares that all the knowledge within existence was learned, written and shared by mankind.

It can be mirrored to see, that mass is the corporeal (tangent) of things. That energy is truly the light between all mass (photon, phonion, soliton, etc) and time is what is transcendent such as knowledge of old can be conveyed to the future.

all mass (corporeal) all energy (light/spirit) and all time (transcendent) do combine as the 'total'

the math to describe this 'process' between the trinity is the name of........

I believe it would be within all interests to discuss it, if in public on the forum, in another thread so we do not detract from the original post, though PMs are fine with me too.

oooops!

i was writing before reading your suggestion

let's see how it pans out

 

[Willamena]

the worst that can happen is we both learn a bit and that is perhaps why i awaken each day.

I agree; that's the worst.

 

[Tristesse]

Since the most religions on earth share a concept of 'thou shalt not lie'

why do the people lie more than most any group of people on earth?

eg..... some suggest creation was 6 thousand years ago, but fail to observe dinosaur bones as revelant.

Some say, jesus is messiah, but none of the items of peace, harmony, 'heaven on earth' has EVER occurred.


Why do the practitioners perpetuate the lies?

It's not so much a lie, but these people believe it to the fullest. They have the idea that scientists are out to get them, so, any bones found mean nothing. Any advancements made in science mean nothing to them. But when they need medical treatment, wheres the first place they go? To a hospital. So, the doctor's can treat them with medical science. it's ridiculous, this idea of only accepting certain science claims, and rejecting other ones, based purely on religious dogma.

 

[ChristineES]

apparently, it was shocking for you do basically observe the same rule you expect from your own parents, children, friends and associates
what ever you said in that sentence appears to be trolling with bait

1. I never trolled in my entire life.
2. I wasn't raised with any religion whatsoever, I wasn't raised a Christian or anything else. My mother was an atheist from the time she was 12 until past her 40th birthday. My ancestors were Jews and Catholics, and I am a Protestant Christian.
3. The statement highlighted in orange- If what I said was trolling, then what you said was trolling, too since I just copied your statement.
4. I still can't see how you don't seem to see that your opening post can be taken as an insult even if it wasn't meant to be.
5. I don't enjoy arguing, so I am leaving this thread for good.

 

[Quagmire]

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