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LDS Members should stop this nonsense

Theocan

Active Member
Because all i care about is being in good standing with the Lord.


You have a misguided view.

It's not about "standing" with the Lord as though your trying to please him like pleasing a boss or a parent.

It's about unconditional love, without worrying "where you stand" in the eye of God.
 

Magic Man

Reaper of Conversation
17-year-old unmarried daughter is 5 months pregnant. (Sep 2008) (if she can't even control her daughter how does she expect to control anything else?)

Wow. Now I feel sorry for your daughter. You do realize that teenagers, even if they are you child, are their own people, right? You do realize that you cannot control everything your child does? They do think for themselves and have their own lives, even if you don't agree with them. I just hope you don't plan to try to control your daughter as much as this statement by you implies.

As for relating to her political career, her daughter's situation has nothing to do with anything.
 

idea

Question Everything
Honestly people.

Stop polarizing yourselves.

Yes it is hard to decide who we should vote for, I'm going to vote for who the Lord wants me to vote for.

I'm going to be fasting and praying to find out. And it may not even matter, Who knows? maybe the Lord will come before election day, WE DO NOT KNOW.

I think most conservatives are soft spoken humble people - which is why you don't find too many in the media. Perhaps it is time for conservatives to speak up, get out the bumper stickers, and post some “plain” truths.

Psalms 55:21 The words of his mouth were smoother than butter, but war was in his heart: his words were softer than oil, yet were they drawn swords.

Right now I honestly feel like we are at war, a civil war. I will be fighting on the side of a smaller government, on the side of freedom, on the side of McCain.

Yes, I am very polarized, I don't like socialist/communist agendas, frankly, it scares the h** out of me to see Americans falling for this Hollywood production.

Alma 46:12 And it came to pass that he rent his coat; and he took a piece thereof, and wrote upon it—In memory of our God, our religion, and freedom, and our peace, our wives, and our children...
 

madhatter85

Transhumanist
you know what's really retarded?

All of the Riots outside the GOP convention. People getting beaten, shot, tear gassed, the city getting trashed.

What happened during the Dem's convention? nothing.
 

idea

Question Everything
you know what's really retarded?

All of the Riots outside the GOP convention. People getting beaten, shot, tear gassed, the city getting trashed.

What happened during the Dem's convention? nothing.

That is because republicans are civil people who don't do things like that.
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The book of Mormon was specifically written for us to address our current issues.
The Gadianton robbers are alive and well.
 

MysticSang'ha

Big Squishy Hugger
Premium Member
That is because republicans are civil people who don't do things like that.

Civil people don't do what? Protest? We all have the right to be dissenters.

MH, I'm troubled by how the RNC is responding to the protesters, too.
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
That is because republicans are civil people who don't do things like that.


Or maybe because it was the unethical and criminal actions of conservatives that sparked the protests. And perhaps no one protested the Dems because they have a bit more integrity and don't really give people a whole lot of reasons to protest them.
 

madhatter85

Transhumanist
Civil people don't do what? Protest? We all have the right to be dissenters.

MH, I'm troubled by how the RNC is responding to the protesters, too.

I'm not happy with either side and how they do things.

The extremists on both sides are causing everyone problems. It's when extremists get into power that bad thing happen.
 

madhatter85

Transhumanist
Is a spirit born of rape any less important than one born in wedlock ???

I think that the Woman who is the victim should go to the Lord and find out what he would have her do. But i don't think she should be forced to keep it if she did not want to.
 

imbobbbb

Member
I think that the Woman who is the victim should go to the Lord and find out what he would have her do. But i don't think she should be forced to keep it if she did not want to.
I believe that your position is also the position of the church,and mine as well.....Lds will have to do as everyone else should do and vote for whomever they feel would benefit the country most.I will be supporting mccain,i would much prefer that palin was at the TOP of the ticket,but i will respect those who support obama. There is much to dislike about 'both' parties,i feel the dems are 'running the country downhill 'and the reps are 'walking it downhill' ,so with the republicans you wont have so far to go to get going back in the right direction in the future but i understand that many fine,intelligent,people see the world differently then i do.I'm just glad we still have the right to make leadership decisions,even wrong ones.
 

Watchmen

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
MH, may I ask what you mean by you don't think "she should be forced to keep it if she did not want to" ???
 

madhatter85

Transhumanist
MH, may I ask what you mean by you don't think "she should be forced to keep it if she did not want to" ???

how is it not clear?

It's her choice to keep it, but it was not her fault that she was horribly victimized, why should she be forced to keep it?
 

Watchmen

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
how is it not clear?

It's her choice to keep it, but it was not her fault that she was horribly victimized, why should she be forced to keep it?

You didn't answer the question you only restated what you said previously.

Let me make this clear:

Are you saying it's OK to get an abortion or it's OK to give it up for adoption. In both situations she does not "keep it" and I want you to be clear about which you're advocating for.
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
Yes it is hard to decide who we should vote for, I'm going to vote for who the Lord wants me to vote for.

I'm not exactly sure how you could ever be certain that who you think the Lord wants you to vote for and who the Lord actually wants you to vote for would be one and the same, especially when whatever position you end up taking on the issue, there will also be just-as-devout and just-as-certain people on the other side.

Unless, of course, you have some special gift to read the mind of the Almighty that nobody else has. Do you?
 

madhatter85

Transhumanist
You didn't answer the question you only restated what you said previously.

Let me make this clear:

Are you saying it's OK to get an abortion or it's OK to give it up for adoption. In both situations she does not "keep it" and I want you to be clear about which you're advocating for.

you were Vauge as to what you were tyring to "get at"

Why should she be forced to go through the pains of childbirth to bear a child that resulted from Rape?
 

madhatter85

Transhumanist
I'm not exactly sure how you could ever be certain that who you think the Lord wants you to vote for and who the Lord actually wants you to vote for would be one and the same, especially when whatever position you end up taking on the issue, there will also be just-as-devout and just-as-certain people on the other side.

Unless, of course, you have some special gift to read the mind of the Almighty that nobody else has. Do you?

everyone on this planet has the same opportunities to recieve inspiration from the Holy Ghost. :)
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
everyone on this planet has the same opportunities to recieve inspiration from the Holy Ghost. :)
And when you encounter someone whose faith is just as strong as yours, who has prayed and fasted just as much as you have but has come to a contrary position to yours, do you even consider the possibility that maybe he's the one whose position is inspired?
 

Gunfingers

Happiness Incarnate
Why are we all talking about this like there's only two choices?

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Does that count as proselytizing?
 
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