From the website of Gov. Palin's church

[jonny]

What do you think about this article from the church Governor Palin attend's website:

[FONT=Times,Times New Roman]Is Mormonism Christian?[/FONT]

[FONT=Times,Times New Roman]By James R. Spencer[/FONT]​

[FONT=Times,Times New Roman] Notice that the title of this article is not "Are Mormons Christians?" That is a somewhat different question. No one can see into the human heart but God. No one but God is qualified to judge hearts. But, does Mormonism teach a consistent biblical doctrine — a Christian doctrine? That is an important question because we can judge the teachings of an organization. And we must do so if we are to faithfully discharge our responsibilities as Christ’s disciples.


Mormonism, throughout its 170-year history, has always found itself toe-to-toe with the larger body of Christian believers. Today, the Mormon Church fields some 60,000 missionaries whose job it is to bring people into membership — to baptize them not merely into Christ, but into Mormonism. That is why most evangelical denominations are on record denouncing the doctrines of Mormonism. The late Walter Martin, the father of the modern anti-cult movement, called Mormonism a collection of "garbled doctrines masquerading as Christianity."


Those are strong words. Christians do not make such statements out of rancor, jealousy or ill will. They are simply facing up to their responsibility to challenge Mormonism’s erroneous doctrines. They do so because this religion teaches false ideas about the nature of God and man and about the way of salvation.
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Is Mormonism Christian?

 

[Katzpur]

What do you think about this article from the church Governor Palin attend's website:



Is Mormonism Christian?

One more ENORMOUS reason why I won't vote for McCain/Palin. Thanks for the heads up. Another couple of fundies leading the country is just about the last thing we need.

 

[madhatter85]

Gah, I CAN't VOTE IN GOOD CONCIOUS THIS YEAR :crying:

 

[SoyLeche]

What do you think about this article from the church Governor Palin attend's website:



Is Mormonism Christian?

Doesn't bother me much.

90% of the people I work with probably have something similar on the wesites of the churches they attend. That doesn't bother me either. Most of them have probably never seen such a document or even thought about it all that much. I doubt that Palin has either

Actually - that statement is pretty tame and seems reasonable enough to me (trying to see it from their POV at least).

 

[Katzpur]

Doesn't bother me much.

90% of the people I work with probably have something similar on the wesites of the churches they attend. That doesn't bother me either. Most of them have probably never seen such a document or even thought about it all that much. I doubt that Palin has either

Actually - that statement is pretty tame and seems reasonable enough to me (trying to see it from their POV at least).

I think it was the idea that they quoted Walter Martin, of all people, as their authority. Mickey Mouse would have been a more reliable source of information, and anybody who knows anything at all about "Dr" Martin would know that.

 

[Watchmen]

Thanks, Jonny. You continue to do a good job of bringing the GOP's view of Mormonism into the light.

 

[DeepShadow]

Meh, I don't think that Palin's religious upbringing should count any more than Romney's. There was an "Evangelicals for Mitt" website that pointed out there should never be a religious test for presidency. Are we saying there should be?

That being said, I probably won't be voting for McCain, but for other reasons.

 

[Watchmen]

Meh, I don't think that Palin's religious upbringing should count any more than Romney's. There was an "Evangelicals for Mitt" website that pointed out there should never be a religious test for presidency. Are we saying there should be?

That being said, I probably won't be voting for McCain, but for other reasons.

I don't think it's about religious tests - it's about revealing what the GOP actually thinks of Mormons.

 

[FFH]

The world will all know soon enough that we are Christian.

Any Christian denomination that doesn't regard Mormons as Christian, clearly needs to get out of their small religious box.

Mitt will continue to demonstrate to the world that we are a Christian religion, and Palin may be the first to recognize the Christian side of Mitt and be an instrument in correcting this mind set, in her future speeches to the world.

I see it as just one step closer to Christ's reign, when all enemies will be shamed.

 

[SoyLeche]

I think it was the idea that they quoted Walter Martin, of all people, as their authority. Mickey Mouse would have been a more reliable source of information, and anybody who knows anything at all about "Dr" Martin would know that.

Meh.

That still doesn't bother me all that much.

Having read the rest of the article - it's really not that bad. There isn't much misrepresentation on what we believe. A little bit in the description of how we view that atonement - but, then again, many Mormons do (incorrectly) view the atonement the way that is described in the article.

I'm actually impressed with this article. Sure, it is critical - but I wouldn't expect anything less. It at least shows a willingness to discuss actual doctrinal differences - which we can all agree do exist and should be discussed.

Maybe this is a little less tactful - but it isn't all that different from E. Holland's talks in the last 2 conferences - and I may just think that this is less tactful because I agree with E. Holland's assessment and disagree with this on.

 

[SoyLeche]

I don't think it's about religious tests - it's about revealing what the GOP actually thinks of Mormons.

Gimme a break. Now the "Assemblies of God"s "Today's Pentecostal Evangel" magazine speaks for the GOP?

FTR - I don't think that the DNC want's God to 'damn America' either.

 

[Watchmen]

Gimme a break. Now the "Assemblies of God"s "Today's Pentecostal Evangel" magazine speaks for the GOP?

FTR - I don't think that the DNC want's God to 'damn America' either.

The magazine doesn't speak for the GOP - but it is further evidence of what certain GOP members think of the LDS since they are members of this church as well.

Where have you been the past year? Haven't you seen the GOP attacks on Mormonism or do you have your head in the sand?

 

[SoyLeche]

The magazine doesn't speak for the GOP - but it is further evidence of what certain GOP members think of the LDS since they are members of this church as well.

Where have you been the past year? Haven't you seen the GOP attacks on Mormonism or do you have your head in the sand?

What do I care about how "certain GOP members think of the LDS"??? Also - I doubt that an obscure magazine really is much evidence of what people who attend a church from the denomiantion that produces the magazine actually think. Like I said - I doubt that many people who attend an "Assemblies of God" church have thought much about the Mormon church at all.

I saw plenty of politicians acting like politicians, if that's what you are referring to.

Again - like I said - this article is very tame. I have no problem whatsoever with it.

 

[Watchmen]

What do I care about how "certain GOP members think of the LDS"??? Also - I doubt that an obscure magazine really is much evidence of what people who attend a church from the denomiantion that produces the magazine actually think. Like I said - I doubt that many people who attend an "Assemblies of God" church have thought much about the Mormon church at all.

I saw plenty of politicians acting like politicians, if that's what you are referring to.

Again - like I said - this article is very tame. I have no problem whatsoever with it.

You're probably right.

Although, I don't accept the excuse of politicians being politicians. The GOP candidates crossed the line.

 

[SoyLeche]

You're probably right.

Although, I don't accept the excuse of politicians being politicians. The GOP candidates crossed the line.

Care to refresh my memory? I recall that Huckabee was a bit of a jerk - but I never liked him anyway.

I can't recall any others.

 

[Watchmen]

Care to refresh my memory? I recall that Huckabee was a bit of a jerk - but I never liked him anyway.

I can't recall any others.

Jonny has posted extensive links in other threads. I'll see if I can find them or you can search on your own.

 

[Reverend Rick]

It is just plain ignorance folks. The same people who talk bad about mormonism think Barrack is a Muslim. By the way, remind me why that would be such a bad thing again?

 

[Father Heathen]

It is just plain ignorance folks. The same people who talk bad about mormonism think Barrack is a Muslim. By the way, remind me why that would be such a bad thing again?

Because in some peoples' minds Islam = terrorism, which is why they try to link 9/11 to Iraq and Iran even though both countries are/were enemies of the Taliban and Al Qaeda.

 

[madhatter85]

It is just plain ignorance folks. The same people who talk bad about mormonism think Barrack is a Muslim. By the way, remind me why that would be such a bad thing again?

Wait, Barrak Obama is Black AND NOT Muslim?


j/k

 

[Rolling_Stone]

One more ENORMOUS reason why I won't vote for McCain/Palin. Thanks for the heads up. Another couple of fundies leading the country is just about the last thing we need.

That's you're right and I respect that. I only wonder: doesn't that put you in the same boat as those who wouldn't vote for a Mormon?