Why Do Islamic States Persecute Atheists ?

[gsa]

In Egypt, a man was sentenced to three years in prison for calling himself an atheist on Facebook. In the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, a growth in atheism has resulted in a state backlash, with a liberal blogger lashed for calling for religious toleration.

If there is no compulsion in Islam, why do Islamic states react so violently to atheism? What do they have to fear if Islam is true?

 

[McBell]

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Because Muslims are so weak in their faith they have to remove any thing and every thing they think might possibly destroy it?

 

[gsa]

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Because Muslims are so weak in their faith they have to remove any thing and every thing they think might possibly destroy it?

It would certainly seem to imply that. You would think that a religion that claims it has rational evidence for its position would not fear reasonable debate and discussion on these points, but that doesn't appear to be the case.

 

[Thana]

I reckon it has more to do with politics than with the religion itself.

 

[gsa]

I reckon it has more to do with politics than with the religion itself.

Scapegoating is political, but politics isn't the only thing that determines the targets.

 

[TashaN]

I reckon it has more to do with politics than with the religion itself.

True.

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

True.

Why is it true?

 

[Deidre]

Interesting to note, I took a look at Wikipedia, and apparently, one can receive the death penalty for practicing atheism, in Saudi Arabia.

Practicing atheism? lol Atheism isn't a religion to be practiced.
^_^

I can't help but think that these governments are misinterpreting the teachings of Islam, because forcing religion on others, is against its teachings.

 

[Servant_of_the_One1]

Saudi arabia? Seriously?
They forbid women to drive cars and forbid children to make snowman lol

In their eyes i should receive lashings for writing that.

 

[gsa]

Saudi arabia? Seriously?
They forbid women to drive cars and forbid children to make snowman lol

In their eyes i should receive lashings for writing that.

Also Egypt. There are 13 countries where atheists can be executed, all of them Muslim majority.

Pretty hard to deny that this has no relationship to the religion.

 

[gsa]

Saudi arabia? Seriously?
They forbid.... children to make snowman lol.

Are there many opportunities to build snowmen in SA?

 

[Servant_of_the_One1]

Also Egypt. There are 13 countries where atheists can be executed, all of them Muslim majority.

Pretty hard to deny that this has no relationship to the religion.

Its their interpretation of islam. Maybe they believe peaceful apostates should also be executed. Many muslims dont agree with that. They believe in "no compulsion in religion" for the peaceful apostasy.

 

[Servant_of_the_One1]

Are there many opportunities to build snowmen in SA?

I wonder the same.
Yet saudi arabian scholar said its haram to make snowman.

 

[gsa]

Its their interpretation of islam. Maybe they believe peaceful apostates should also be executed. Many muslims dont agree with that. They believe in "no compulsion in religion" for the peaceful apostasy.

Do you think state murder of atheists is a legitimate interpretation of Islam?

 

[Servant_of_the_One1]

Seeker,
They believe in the hadith that says. "Whoever changes his religion, kill him".
However i believe that hadith goes against Quran and Sunnah, and thus i cannot take that hadith above Quran and Sunnah(authentic hadiths).
The rule is if one hadith contradicts Quran and Other authentic hadith, then u must not accept such hadith. It is illogical to believe prophet Muhammad pbuh said that, when Allah swt said "there is no compulsion in religion" and "whoever wants to believe let him do so, and whoever wants to disbelieve let him".
The prophet PBUH cannot contradict Allah swt. So either the hadith is false, or it is distorted(some parts left out).

Because of the hadith they are saying it is legitimate to kill all apostates, peaceful and non-peaceful apostastes.

 

[gsa]

Seeker,
They believe in the hadith that says. "Whoever changes his religion, kill him".
However i believe that hadith goes against Quran and Sunnah, and thus i cannot take that hadith above Quran and Sunnah(authentic hadiths).
The rule is if one hadith contradicts Quran and Other authentic hadith, then u must not accept such hadith. It is illogical to believe prophet Muhammad pbuh said that, when Allah swt said "there is no compulsion in religion" and "whoever wants to believe let him do so, and whoever wants to disbelieve let him".
The prophet PBUH cannot contradict Allah swt. So either the hadith is false, or it is distorted(some parts left out).

Because of the hadith they are saying it is legitimate to kill all apostates, peaceful and non-peaceful apostastes.

What distinguishes peaceful apostates from non-peaceful ones? Is an atheist who publicly proclaims that Islam is false a peaceful apostate?

 

[Servant_of_the_One1]

What distinguishes peaceful apostates from non-peaceful ones? Is an atheist who publicly proclaims that Islam is false a peaceful apostate?

You mean such kind of apostate within muslim country?


Well the Quran and Hadith states that the apostate who separates from the Jama'ah(muslims) and joins the enemies, is to be killed. Or the apostate that goes against the law and order, publicly calling for disbelief and insults the religion Or calls to uprising. We are talking about warlike apostasy. At the time of prophet pbuh apostates would ofcourse join the enemies(makkan polytheists). So this is treason.

With warlike apostasy i dont mean apostate that challenges muslims in debates on tv aslong it happens in respectful way.
To give example of warlike apostates by naming people i think most cases about ayaan hersi ali, salman rushdi.


However i never agreed with killing peaceful apostates. Muslims who left the religion, they mind their own business by going to church/synagogue/atheistBowling ( ). It goes against Quran and Sunnah.

 

[MD]

Are there many opportunities to build snowmen in SA?

It snowed where I lived in SA a little. There were regions where it snowed a lot. There is the Hijaz mountain range.

However I think that fatwa was more so for Muslims living outside SA.

 

[Deidre]

Saudi arabia? Seriously?
They forbid women to drive cars and forbid children to make snowman lol

In their eyes i should receive lashings for writing that.

Can you imagine waking up everyday...and what guides your day is anger, hate and seeking to punish others? It would be exhausting and a sad way to live. I can't believe in 2015, there are STILL countries in the world, who govern that way, and/or support extremist groups who are 'motivated' by that way of life. So sad.

I think of the people within ISIS, who could be using all of their talents and energies to do good in the world, but instead are brainwashed and motivated by hate. It's just so horribly sad.

 

[Cephus]

They persecute everyone, not just atheists. If you're not a Muslim, and then if you're not their particular kind of Muslim, you can expect to be harassed, beaten and killed. Religion of peace my ***.