Using water, fire and Gong in meditation?

[Riders]

I have done some fire gazing for meditation in the past, and I using looking into water now, an ocean on my virtual reality game and have been a toa gong service where Gongs were used. Its easier to break into a state of meditation this way some think its lazy to use it or not correct. Does anyone have opinions on the this?

 

[crossfire]

Just Zazen.

 

[Aupmanyav]

Sound is a nice way to meditate. I used to do that (I do not need it now having achieved what I wanted to achieve). Gazing into a fire or the flame of a candle, gazing into water, counting, looking at a pendulum is sort of dumb as far as my view goes.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Zen garden. Don't forget to place one stone under the sand. ;0)

A gong might serve well. I tend to focus on emptiness during such moments, when you suddenly find yourself transfixed, and sharply awoken upon realisation whenever the transfixation breaks and fades.

 

[Ponder This]

Wandering may cease when distraction is present.
A moment may be glimpsed when distraction ceases.

 

[Aupmanyav]

Agree, it does happen that way.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Wandering may cease when distraction is present.
A moment may be glimpsed when distraction ceases.

OMG!!!

I should have been paying more attention!!!!