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Oregon campus shooting
- Thread starter MD
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Another day in America.
it's cowboy age never had an end in USA ?
Just curious why always it's happened in Universities and Schools ?!!!
some poeple are with and other against possession of gun for civilians .
keep some of your "sorry" for next gun crime until guns restricted , if guns restricted these victimes are alive now .
Just curious why always it's happened in Universities and Schools ?!!!
some poeple are with and other against possession of gun for civilians .
keep some of your "sorry" for next gun crime until guns restricted , if guns restricted these victimes are alive now .
Fireside_Hindu
Jai Lakshmi Maa
Nope. No problem with guns in American. No, sir-eee.
dust1n
Zindīq
45 shootings so far this year... but who's counting?
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
Rather than rehashing the same stale debate, I'm more interested in the culprit's motives and psychological state.
The problem is much bigger than guns. It has much more to do with mental illness and the society as a whole. These events are symptoms of a deeply sick, dying society. Mass shootings are really akin to mini-rebellions or revolutions except they're directed at the wrong people. They're explosions of rage.
It's not just about mental illness ,even normal people when they get angry may lost control and used their guns , as revenge or hate , or drunk ......etc
giving the opportunity to all people to have guns is like , give them more opportunity to kill each other .
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
Of course I had to search reddit for actual details rather than actual news networks. Apparently he posted to 4chan. Reading that thread (or any thread on 4chan for that matter) makes a lump of misanthropy swell in my heart.
Addressing mental illness is needed but let me go through the internal dialog of these people:
Hmmm, I feel like killing people today.
I feel like killing A LOT of people today.
What will make this easy for me to do it with?
Should I drive into them with my car?
Should I build a bomb with expertise that I don't have?
Should I use a knife? But I still want to kill lots of people. How many could I theoretically kill before authorities come?
Hmmm, what should I do this with?
What a hard question to ask myself?
Apparently, mentally ill folks aren't ILL enough to not know the BEST tool for the job.
Hmmm, I feel like killing people today.
I feel like killing A LOT of people today.
What will make this easy for me to do it with?
Should I drive into them with my car?
Should I build a bomb with expertise that I don't have?
Should I use a knife? But I still want to kill lots of people. How many could I theoretically kill before authorities come?
Hmmm, what should I do this with?
What a hard question to ask myself?
Apparently, mentally ill folks aren't ILL enough to not know the BEST tool for the job.
My point is that this is more than just guns. This is a deep social problem and all this talk about guns is missing the point and is really just a distraction.
i know , if society is problem , guns is solution ?
so let's remove the guns , until society become ok
No, society needs to change. Getting rid of guns won't solve the problem. I don't personally care about guns either way. That whole discussion is a distraction from the real issues that are causing these massacres and I'm tired of people not bothering to actually think about the issue beyond one-dimensional crap. I guess it's denial, really.
I think that Mark Ames is the closest to telling us what the root of the problem is:
http://www.alternet.org/story/24796/a_brief_history_of_rage,_murder_and_rebellion
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Father Heathen
Veteran Member
If anyone is interested, here is the ongoing reddit thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/3n4pw9/active_shooter_reported_at_oregon_college/
Along with the now deleted but archived 4chan thread: https://archive.moe/r9k/thread/22785073/
Along with the now deleted but archived 4chan thread: https://archive.moe/r9k/thread/22785073/
dust1n
Zindīq
I know the crimes could done without even guns , but guns is just give more chance to people to kill each other .
i imagine if We Algerian all had guns , so for sure we will had this problem too .
People in healthy, happy societies where people's humanity and dignity are respected don't commit such high levels of mass murders and spree shootings as we have in America, regardless of guns.
dust1n
Zindīq
"The identity of Oregon’s Umpqua Community College shooter has not been revealed, but that hasn’t stopped some 4Chan users from trying to spread rumors. The netizens tried to spark hoaxes by created phony Twitter accounts to fool the media, Ryan Broderick, a deputy global news director at BuzzFeed, tweeted Thursday.
“4chan members are setting up fake Twitter accounts to tweet fake #UCCSHooting suspects at reporters and media orgs,” Roderick wrote. The post was quickly shared dozen of times."
http://www.ibtimes.com/who-oregons-...reportedly-create-fake-gunman-twitter-2123576
Ah, who knew the anonymous kids sharing information on the internet would be substantially less trustworthy than a newspaper...
Thanks for posting this.
i am with ban gun , regardless the society healthy or not .
if society is not healthy,so becomes very required to ban guns .