Do Christians and Muslims go to the same Heaven?

[DawudTalut]

Surat Al-'Anbyā'
"So he made them into fragments, except a large one among them, that they might return to it [and question]." 21.58
Taliban and IS are completing Abraham's mission, breaking idols. Nice work. Erase everything. Let the Middle-East be as Allah wanted it, a desert. :Claps:

Peace be on you.
No Taliban and IS and likes whereever they are, were and will be no completing any mission of Prophets. When they were asked by Western journalists about mercy, they clearly said they did not know the teaching.

Please see the note 2396, idols belonged to Abraham's family:

The Holy Quran

True Islamic teaching does not ask to violate other religions' places of worship, according to Ahmadiyya Muslims.

Many people have idols sitting in heart, yet they claim Taoheed / Unity of God by tongue, what to do? Obviously killing is not solution, discussion and prayer is.

 

[Kirran]

Peace be on you.
a-In general you are right.

b-Yet people learn things as they grow, they do not follow everything of forefathers, they do find explore new avenues.

c-Effects of forefathers, home-life, peers, schools, society is serious.
[21:54] They replied, ‘We found our fathers worshipping them.’

d-But there are least-thoughts which come to every mind and they continue to reflect (in one way or other) what is purpose of life and related issues. Media and other sources are in abundance to help thinking and scrutinizing and comparing issues and solutions and religions.
[Quran ch 16: v 79] And Allah brought you forth from the wombs of your mothers while you knew nothing, and gave you ears and eyes and hearts, that you might be grateful.



No,
God is the best Judge.



Who is born where and in which family and with what faculties, it is not their choice. Thus
[ch2: words from v287]"Allah burdens not any soul beyond its capacity. ........................."
Yet
[17:37] And follow not that of which thou hast no knowledge. Verily, the ear and the eye and the heart — all these shall be called to account.

Did the person tried to get true-knowledge through given faculties like ear, eyes and heart (conscience)? It is b/n the person and God, everything is being recorded:
[17:14] And every man’s works have We fastened to his neck, and on the Day of Resurrection We shall bring out for him a book which he will find wide open.
[17:15] ‘Read thy book. Sufficient is thy own soul this day as reckoner against thee.’



Two scenarios:
a-Born in a Muslim family, But not practicing it with spirit of peace, not conveying it to others, being extremist in own explanations, chopping heads, being pawn in the hands of covert powers, not using own brains, wasting resources and time, sinking low in productive works, rising high is luxurious life styles etc.

b-Born in non-Islamic household, having spirit and brain of truth-finding through seeking knowledge, self reflections and direct prayers, and reaching to conclusion that real Message of Islam is the Truth and finding, interacting those whose outlook is international with peace for all. Then accepting the Way.

Please think about the followings questions, the answers should be more than obvious!

Q- Which of above two categories above will be better in the eyes of Allah?
Q- The early companions of Holy Prophet of Islam (and other true religions of their times) came from various facets of life, how did they cross the hurdle of name-calling, persecution and greeds-offering by opponents?


When someone cross the mountain of opposition, Allah rewards on very high scales:

[41:31] As for those who say, ‘Our Lord is Allah,’ and then remain steadfast, the angels descend on them, saying: ‘Fear ye not, nor grieve; and rejoice in the Garden that you were promised.

[41:32] ‘We are your friends in this life and in the Hereafter. Therein you will have all that your souls will desire, and therein you will have all that you will ask for —

[41:33] ‘An entertainment from the Most Forgiving, the Merciful.’

Good wishes.

OK, interesting.

But it ignores the fact that there are many observant Hindus, Christians, animists, whatever, who simply weren't in a position to believe in Islam. They just didn't come to do so. So while I see Allah would prefer a non-Muslim who comes to Islam, and becomes an observant Muslim to a non-observant Muslim raised as Muslim, there are a lot more scenarios than that. It is far far more likely for a person born into a Muslim background to a) be a Muslim and b) be an observant Muslim. What's more, it's more likely for them to be monotheist, as opposed to somebody who commits shirk, by Islamic understandings.

This fact, of course, only contrasts with exclusivist interpretations of Islam, which while near-universal, are not entirely so.

Allah rewards one who crosses the mountain of opposition, more than somebody already on the right side of the mountain. But what about somebody who doesn't make it over that mountain, which the one born on the right side wouldn't have needed to climb?

 

[DawudTalut]

OK, interesting.

Thanks.

But it ignores the fact that there are many observant Hindus, Christians, animists, whatever, who simply weren't in a position to believe in Islam. They just didn't come to do so.

In that case basic goodness (the basic righteousness) is the base line:

1= [ch7:v27] O children of Adam! We have indeed sent down to you raiment to cover your shame, and to be an elegant dress; but the raiment of righteousness — that is the best. That is one of the Signs of Allah, that they may remember.


2= [36:61] ‘Did I not enjoin on you, O ye sons of Adam, that you worship not Satan — for he is to you an open enemy —

Rest is between them and God.

................ It is far far more likely for a person born into a Muslim background to a) be a Muslim and b) be an observant Muslim. What's more, it's more likely for them to be monotheist, as opposed to somebody who commits shirk, by Islamic understandings.This fact, of course, only contrasts with exclusivist interpretations of Islam, which while near-universal, are not entirely so.

For this we may check the time when a Messenger comes. People of various creed already exist. It is highly likely they remain so if Messenger had not come.

But what happens? Messenger begins his work to convey Divine Message. Some people accept his message immediately, some wait and see and decide, some opposes and some remain uninformed about him.

Thus it puts heavy responsibility on Messenger and followers to convey the Message in best possible form and pray.

[5:68] O Messenger! convey to the people what has been revealed to thee from thy Lord; and if thou do it not, thou hast not conveyed His Message at all. And Allah will protect thee from men. Surely, Allah guides not the disbelieving people.

Two questions arise:
Q1-Almost all religions have prophecies about the grand Prophet, do they internally thinks about it, remind this is the era of mass-communication and information.
Q2-Are Muslims paying the right of Conveying the Message to others?

Allah rewards one who crosses the mountain of opposition, more than somebody already on the right side of the mountain. But what about somebody who doesn't make it over that mountain, which the one born on the right side wouldn't have needed to climb?

For those who are already on the right side of mountain and for those who do not make over:
""For Muslims, the claim of Hadrat Ahmad (as) is important, because the Holy Prophet (sa) had prophesied about the coming of the Messiah and Mahdi to rejuvenate Islam; indeed, he admonished the Muslims: “Even if you have to crawl on ice to reach him, go to him and convey my greetings of peace (salam) to him.” For non-Muslims, the writings of the Promised Messiah (as) provide a wake up call to all those who believe that the revelation and signs of God are a matter of old forgotten history. His writings are replete with the themes of establishing a living relationship with Allah, the role of revelation in achieving that purpose, and the critical importance of following the Holy Prophet (sa) and acting upon the teachings of the Holy Qur’an.""
Source:https://www.alislam.org/books/Essence-1.pdf
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[Muffled]

Some Christians and Muslims claim that the Christian god and Allah are the same god. Considering that some Muslims are treating some Christians rather badly, Growing Trend in Mideast: Muslims Beheading Christians | United with Israel, the question for debate is: Are there separate Heavens, do these Christians and Muslims get separate areas in the same Heaven or do they mingle? If so, might that not create some tension?

I believe there is no tension in Heaven.

My guess is that most Muslims don't have a clue how to get to Heaven and will not be there.

 

[Muffled]

There is one God...one true faith....and one path to everlasting life....just one.

Many people are going to be disappointed when their expectations are not met. They will realise that they put their trust in the wrong God and the wrong faith.

I believe you will be one of them.

 

[Muffled]

Id assume because Allah as somewhat different expectations of practice and worship than God, His place and ways of punishment would differ too. It wouldnt make sense thst it would be the same. In the Bible, only christians who believe in Christ: (collective word for belief in crucifying ones sense, being being born again to follow Christ, to say you want Jesus to be your Lord and savior,nas a result the belief in your resurrection back to God. Im not sure Muslims have that, at least not in that way.

So, I would assume they dont go to the same heaven.

I believe God and Allah are the same but it is possible for God to provide different rules to different people groups based on their culture.

I believe Muslims have an understanding of the end times to some extent provided they understand the Qu'ran correctly.

 

[OneLife]

Muslims and Christians in same heaven...!!!..that will be a sight....imagine Christians killed by ISIS meeting in heaven...will the troubles between continue or will the ISIS crew be too busy fornicating with their promised virgins while the Christians be voyeurs.....

 

[JayJayDee]

I believe you will be one of them.

And you are entitled to your view....thankfully you are not the judge and neither am I. (Matt 7:21-23)