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Did Vedas exist before The Bhagavad Gita ?
- Thread starter paarsurrey
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gnostic
The Lost One
That because it is paarsurrey's intention to discredit all other scriptures in favour of the Qur'an.
Yes, we all know that. Not sure if he knows we know though.
Aupmanyav
Be your own guru
You can't. Unthinkable. Against Paarsurrey, nah! 'Nasti, nasti, neh na nasti kinchana'!BOOYAH!!! We win!!!
However, I am a bit surprised. In his post #11, he has not used the word 'please'!
If something has been told to a person, then the person knows. Words can be used in many contexts.
Is it necessary to understand things before copying and pasting?
Many Hindus take Lord Krishna to be the Supreme God. Who revealed them to rishis? So, for them, the author of Vedas is none other than Lord Krishna, just as @FunnyKindOfMormon says. Hindus do not have the 'Jibreel business'.
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paarsurrey
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One got it wrong.
Did I discredit Veda?
Truth honors Veda and establishes its respect. Please
Regards
You're trying to, yeah, by saying that it's been corrupted and the priests have put in loads of stuff and that people should abridge it.
You have no conception of metaphor, or of the possibility of divine truth existing hidden within mundane treatise.
Well, you think they're too long when they're not. You think its about wars, not ahimsa, and its not. Just two examples.
Then why discuss it and critique at all? You're a Muslim. If you want to study the Veda for your own interest, that's fine. But if that were true, there would be no point in sharing your criticisms with others.
paarsurrey
Veteran Member
Has one read the four Veda (Yajurveda, Rigveda, Samaveda and Atharveda) ? Please
Regards
paarsurrey
Veteran Member
People have said here that there are no poetic expression in the four Veda. It is to be taken literally. Right? Please
Everybody, please
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So you're not denying your disrespect - fair enough.
Who said that? Remember there are differences of opinion. To be honest, even notwithstanding that your reading comprehension seems quite low.
No, I have not read the 4 Vedas. Hindus ARE NOT attached to their scriptures like Abrahamic are. We don't need to read scripture to know how to perform dharma.
You are the only person here who is saying that they should be taken literally. Everyone else, about 10 Hindus, are saying much of them is poetic, or beautifully filled with metaphor.
paarsurrey
Veteran Member
Did Vedas exist before The Bhagavad Gita ?
Friend @Kirran !
The respect of Veda, or any other revealed scripture is to read it often, to get guidance from it in one's life and not to throw its teachings on one's back . Why did G-d reveal Veda, if it was a superficial guidance for the humans and never needed? Please
When Veda believers left Veda, Veda also left them, and it became open for the narrators/scribes/priests to do any corruptions they wanted.
If one leaves one's Jewelry in the open, anybody could pick it up. Right? Please
Regards
Friend @Kirran !
The respect of Veda, or any other revealed scripture is to read it often, to get guidance from it in one's life and not to throw its teachings on one's back . Why did G-d reveal Veda, if it was a superficial guidance for the humans and never needed? Please
When Veda believers left Veda, Veda also left them, and it became open for the narrators/scribes/priests to do any corruptions they wanted.
If one leaves one's Jewelry in the open, anybody could pick it up. Right? Please
Regards
You're thinking that we should treat the Vedas the way you think the the Qur'an should be treated. They are not the same thing, they are not of the same category. The Vedas are shruti, which is to say they contained understandings received directly by the rishis. But these understandings, being true, are not confined to the Vedas. Anybody can know the Divine in their life, and the guidance of the Vedas is only suitable for some. Anyway, you're the one going on about corruptions. I don't see that anybody here has agreed with you on that.
I don't even know what the basis is for someone suggesting the Vedas are corrupted.
If one understood the nature of Vedic Sanskrit and how the Vedas were transmitted it would be clear that corruption is highly unlikely, if not impossible.
paarsurrey
Veteran Member
One may like to read post #22 in another sub-forum related to it:
Did I say that? I never said that ever. If yes, then please quote from me.
I always try to elevate the status of all the revealed religions, their scriptures and their founders. Right? Please
Anybody, please
Regards
That's irrelevant to the current conversation. You're crossing threads. Keep it in its own thread.
Again ... Hinduism is not a revealed religion, its an eternal religion. By default you're therefore not trying to elevate Hinduism. If you were, you would at least listen to what Hindus are telling you.
paarsurrey
Veteran Member
It could be your opinion only.
Hinduism is not mentioned in Veda. It is a Post Veda development. Please
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