ellenjanuary
Well-Known Member
I wrote three atheist agenda topics today, give this one a spin; tell me what you think. 
Meaningful Atheistic Charity.
Why does religious charity trump atheistic charity? Lemme give it to ya straight and simple. If you go to a simple country of simple people living in simple faith, and you say, I'm here to help; unconsciously or consciously the simple peasant is gonna go, why? First of all, when things are simple, they require work; something for nothing is not a new concept, it is an inconceivable concept. Secondly, helping one village makes that village the envy of their neighbors; which according to the first rule means target. If they can look past that, the wanna know that you have a commitment. Simple people understand god. If you're there to do god's work, you have all the advantages. If you're there for philosophy, you have all the disadvantages. Simple people will tell you, they can pray for rain; but philosophy just means being all wet.
Ready to go deep? Ready to steal a march on the crusaders; a stride so long, that it is possible the religious will never recover?
But one must think deep, to go deep. Ten, twenty years; with zero or perhaps negative progress. That's the bad news. The good news? Starts with a single word, leaves the competition in the dust, and has no top end... well, other than global equality. What is that word? Infrastructure.
Here's the deal. The truism is: give a man a fish, he eats for a day, teach a man to fish, he eats for a lifetime. Now, let us look at the truth. Run the logistics. Say, one trained fisherman; two month commitment, no guarantees. Or, a C5 with a bellyload of yesterday's catch. Which one makes the news as a five second blurb? Which one sells?
My viewpoint is obviously slanted, living in the stoopid-wealthy city of Phoenix; but I have walked half across this country, I have been homeless for half my life across a tenth of these states. I know poor; and I know that I cannot know extreme poverty, because of the national infrastructure.
I also know, there is only hunger and poverty in the world; because we allow hunger and poverty in the world. Because charity has been reduced to a mere token. Toss yer nickle in the bucket, all the weeks sins, washed away. Now, I know you don't wanna hear no Bible, so's I just paraphrase. When Jesus said, do not be showy with your alms; he meant build infrastructure, not score advertizing material. So, what you cats need to do, is build infrastructure; the lower, the nastier, the better. A road or a sewer line between villages, takes a dog's age, takes commitment; and there ain't no glory in being covered in ****** all day. But once you got that road, or that line; all the villages along the way benefit. Busting up the neighbor's road is just gonna hurt your commerce down the road. Now, if you have an organization, with some big, identifiable mascot or logo, and uniforms; and you are in these villages doing the scut work, day in, day out, that logo, that uniform, will give the simple people a simple icon to believe in. A commitment. FSM Anti-Hunger Crusaders!
Just some advice I wouldnt deny god so much as deny religion. Let them see philosophy as god, without all the preaching, threats and promises; and as something involving real people making a real difference. And FSM will conquer the world, from the least to the greatest. Besides, you're atheists; can you actually do stuff without trying to educate someone? There will be young in the village with the intellectual capacity to understand atheism on its own terms. Don't try to recruit nobody, don't try to push an agenda, just let it happen. We're all monkeys, right? Curious monkeys, right? Sho-nuff.
And the bonus prize? The religious, cannot compete. They have been in it for the sound bites for so long; that if one church or sect tries to duplicate your innovation, the others will turn on their weak with known techniques, rather than fight something for which they just lack the stamina.
There has always been atheism; and atheism has always failed, and why has it failed? Lack of infrastructure. Yet this is truly a new age. Atheism can stand now, and stand forever; become what it should have been long ago. Reason. Defined in its own terms, and not by a- theism. For myself, I would donate; I tend not to give to large charities for exactly these reasons, I tend to give to people. Because people matter, while advertizing, is merely a distraction.
And if they give you any lip; tell 'em ellenjanuary, prophet of god, sent ya.
Meaningful Atheistic Charity.
Why does religious charity trump atheistic charity? Lemme give it to ya straight and simple. If you go to a simple country of simple people living in simple faith, and you say, I'm here to help; unconsciously or consciously the simple peasant is gonna go, why? First of all, when things are simple, they require work; something for nothing is not a new concept, it is an inconceivable concept. Secondly, helping one village makes that village the envy of their neighbors; which according to the first rule means target. If they can look past that, the wanna know that you have a commitment. Simple people understand god. If you're there to do god's work, you have all the advantages. If you're there for philosophy, you have all the disadvantages. Simple people will tell you, they can pray for rain; but philosophy just means being all wet.
Ready to go deep? Ready to steal a march on the crusaders; a stride so long, that it is possible the religious will never recover?
But one must think deep, to go deep. Ten, twenty years; with zero or perhaps negative progress. That's the bad news. The good news? Starts with a single word, leaves the competition in the dust, and has no top end... well, other than global equality. What is that word? Infrastructure.
Here's the deal. The truism is: give a man a fish, he eats for a day, teach a man to fish, he eats for a lifetime. Now, let us look at the truth. Run the logistics. Say, one trained fisherman; two month commitment, no guarantees. Or, a C5 with a bellyload of yesterday's catch. Which one makes the news as a five second blurb? Which one sells?
My viewpoint is obviously slanted, living in the stoopid-wealthy city of Phoenix; but I have walked half across this country, I have been homeless for half my life across a tenth of these states. I know poor; and I know that I cannot know extreme poverty, because of the national infrastructure.
I also know, there is only hunger and poverty in the world; because we allow hunger and poverty in the world. Because charity has been reduced to a mere token. Toss yer nickle in the bucket, all the weeks sins, washed away. Now, I know you don't wanna hear no Bible, so's I just paraphrase. When Jesus said, do not be showy with your alms; he meant build infrastructure, not score advertizing material. So, what you cats need to do, is build infrastructure; the lower, the nastier, the better. A road or a sewer line between villages, takes a dog's age, takes commitment; and there ain't no glory in being covered in ****** all day. But once you got that road, or that line; all the villages along the way benefit. Busting up the neighbor's road is just gonna hurt your commerce down the road. Now, if you have an organization, with some big, identifiable mascot or logo, and uniforms; and you are in these villages doing the scut work, day in, day out, that logo, that uniform, will give the simple people a simple icon to believe in. A commitment. FSM Anti-Hunger Crusaders!
Just some advice I wouldnt deny god so much as deny religion. Let them see philosophy as god, without all the preaching, threats and promises; and as something involving real people making a real difference. And FSM will conquer the world, from the least to the greatest. Besides, you're atheists; can you actually do stuff without trying to educate someone? There will be young in the village with the intellectual capacity to understand atheism on its own terms. Don't try to recruit nobody, don't try to push an agenda, just let it happen. We're all monkeys, right? Curious monkeys, right? Sho-nuff.
And the bonus prize? The religious, cannot compete. They have been in it for the sound bites for so long; that if one church or sect tries to duplicate your innovation, the others will turn on their weak with known techniques, rather than fight something for which they just lack the stamina.
There has always been atheism; and atheism has always failed, and why has it failed? Lack of infrastructure. Yet this is truly a new age. Atheism can stand now, and stand forever; become what it should have been long ago. Reason. Defined in its own terms, and not by a- theism. For myself, I would donate; I tend not to give to large charities for exactly these reasons, I tend to give to people. Because people matter, while advertizing, is merely a distraction.
And if they give you any lip; tell 'em ellenjanuary, prophet of god, sent ya.
