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Applying Logic to a current event.

wellwisher

Well-Known Member
Philosophy is connected to logic. What I would like to do is challenge all the members in the Philosophy forum with a tough logic puzzle. I have not been able to solve it.

This mystery puzzle is connected to the impeachment inquiry of President Biden. The alleged charge is influence peddling with his son Hunter. The logic of the defense does not add up in terms of the Democrat Party's claim of the President's total lack of involvement, in his son's business.

The challenge is, can anyone provide a logically sound scenario, based on the facts, where Hunter Biden would still be able to run all those international business ventures, with his father oblivious and 100% detached from his business? Instead of the bottom line opinions of the defense, the goal is a logic stream to that end to help Joe Biden.

For example, one of Hunter's early business ventures was with a Ukrainian Oligarch who controlled energy in Ukraine; big dog, at the time. Oligarchs in Ukraine, at that time, was more like Mafia Dons than Mark Zuckerberg and Elon Musk. Ukraine was well known for corruption; black free market. Mafia Dons, at the top had to be very shrewd in business, paranoid, willing to bend the law, and people savvy, since they often deal with unsavory characters. They have minions to do their research and even other minions to instill fear to maintain their standing among the illegally ambitious and corruptible; semi legit mafia.

How did Hunter get close to this Oligarch, since the Oligarch had to know everything about Hunter to factor out him being a competitor spy. Hunter had no practical skills in energy, and at the time he had a drug problem, which would have diminished, whatever skills, anyone had. If anything, someone with a drug habit is more like something a mafia don could use for leverage; play Hunter for what he could offer.

If you have been following the impeachment inquiry, the business had even more powerful business connections, like to China and Russia. Both countries have spies, everywhere, and with someone like Hunter connected to a top US official, he would be under pre-surveillance and they would known more about him they he knows about himself. How does he get such good jobs with all that high pay and bonuses, with limited skills, yet still sustain a long term business model? Even if he was a good con artist, the word on the street would catch up with him, and although still protected by his status, businesses would avoid him.

The object of the game is to use the available data; above and more, and come up with a logical scenario that would allow Hunter Biden to sustain this long term international business model, without any leverage, that this father could offer. Do not look at him as Hunter Biden, but Hunter Smith.

It is puzzle, wrapped in a paradox, dipped into an enigma.
 

wellwisher

Well-Known Member
https://www.congress.gov/event/118th-congress/house-event/LC71519/text

The link is the official document from The Congress, with references.

The circumstantial evidence appears to add to President Biden's pivotal involvement as the main product being sold by the Hunter Biden Business. However, there are no direct; photographs or wire tap, connections, leaving some minor doubt.

The goal was to work under the assumption, of the Democrat Party defense that President Biden, was totally innocent. Logically, if we could come up with a Hunter Biden centric logic stream, that could explain $10's millions of business revenue, without President Biden, we could eliminate the possibility of a cover up. If not, a coverup could explain where we are.

If you go back in history, Al Capone who was a Chicago Mafia boss during Prohibition, was accused on all types of serious crimes. He always beat the charges connected to all his crimes, including murder, assault, bribery, witness tampering, racketeering, etc. He was always free by the technicalities law, even though he was never really innocent. His defense method would intimidate or disappear witnesses, destroy evidence, buy judges and jurors, etc. By trial, legally, there was never enough evidence to get a conviction, until the IRS got him on tax evasion. The system has ways to cheat justice.

Al Capone showed you can game the legal system, even when everyone knows you are guilty. The goal in this topic to was to come up with a logical scenario, that could explain the data of the inquiry, as all being connected to just Hunter Biden, so future speculation of witness tampering and conspiracy; by Joes Biden, could be eliminated.

Does anyone have any scenario that could work? Fake new is keeping not guilty, by legal technicality and innocent by the facts, ambiguous. But we can clarify innocence, with a sound Hunter Biden logic scenario. I
 

F1fan

Veteran Member
As noted already threre's no facts to apply logic.

Your link seems to be the nonsense that Mr. Comer is spreading after being duped by a witness who was arrested as a çhinese agent, and then another witness who was a Russian agent. The committe hearing last week included Lev parnas who revealed the fraud by Gulliani and Manafort.

So, if the congressional investigation has no evidence what is there left for you?

The paradox is why you expect there to be a logical conclusion without evidence.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
I think the OP on this thread should win the BS Award for 2024 as it's based on largely disproven hearsay.
 

Heyo

Veteran Member
Philosophy is connected to logic. What I would like to do is challenge all the members in the Philosophy forum with a tough logic puzzle. I have not been able to solve it.

This mystery puzzle is connected to the impeachment inquiry of President Biden. The alleged charge is influence peddling with his son Hunter. The logic of the defense does not add up in terms of the Democrat Party's claim of the President's total lack of involvement, in his son's business.

The challenge is, can anyone provide a logically sound scenario, based on the facts, where Hunter Biden would still be able to run all those international business ventures, with his father oblivious and 100% detached from his business? Instead of the bottom line opinions of the defense, the goal is a logic stream to that end to help Joe Biden.

For example, one of Hunter's early business ventures was with a Ukrainian Oligarch who controlled energy in Ukraine; big dog, at the time. Oligarchs in Ukraine, at that time, was more like Mafia Dons than Mark Zuckerberg and Elon Musk. Ukraine was well known for corruption; black free market. Mafia Dons, at the top had to be very shrewd in business, paranoid, willing to bend the law, and people savvy, since they often deal with unsavory characters. They have minions to do their research and even other minions to instill fear to maintain their standing among the illegally ambitious and corruptible; semi legit mafia.

How did Hunter get close to this Oligarch, since the Oligarch had to know everything about Hunter to factor out him being a competitor spy. Hunter had no practical skills in energy, and at the time he had a drug problem, which would have diminished, whatever skills, anyone had. If anything, someone with a drug habit is more like something a mafia don could use for leverage; play Hunter for what he could offer.

If you have been following the impeachment inquiry, the business had even more powerful business connections, like to China and Russia. Both countries have spies, everywhere, and with someone like Hunter connected to a top US official, he would be under pre-surveillance and they would known more about him they he knows about himself. How does he get such good jobs with all that high pay and bonuses, with limited skills, yet still sustain a long term business model? Even if he was a good con artist, the word on the street would catch up with him, and although still protected by his status, businesses would avoid him.

The object of the game is to use the available data; above and more, and come up with a logical scenario that would allow Hunter Biden to sustain this long term international business model, without any leverage, that this father could offer. Do not look at him as Hunter Biden, but Hunter Smith.

It is puzzle, wrapped in a paradox, dipped into an enigma.
Your challenge is based on a false assumption. People are not rational agents, they can be, but usually they are not. The oligarchs may have hired Hunter in hope of using him as leverage against his father. Is that rational, given that they didn't know if it would work?
Maybe Hunter's salary was peanuts to them, so that it was worth the gamble, even if it failed?
 
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