McBell
Resident Sourpuss
I doubt it.
Once stop and frisk was declared illegal they stopped.
Until it was declared illegal it was not considered a crime.
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Stop and Frisk
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Once stop and frisk was declared illegal they stopped.
Until it was declared illegal it was not considered a crime.
I knew that my post was a fantasy.
But a guy can dream.
Btw, I considered it a crime...just not one which could be prosecuted.
McBell
Resident Sourpuss
I am guessing no.
There is a difference though.
Those going onto an airplane are subject to search.
Read the fine print on the ticket
People cannot legally give up some rights by contract.
More compelling is the extraordinary circumstance of a huge herd of people squeezed into
a flying pathogenic torture chamber which is barely held above certain death by a small air
pressure differential on a few spindly airfoils. One tiny bomblet would.....well.....you know.
McBell
Resident Sourpuss
And being subject to search is one right that can be taken away.
You are subject to search whenever you enter a courthouse, police station, post office, airport....
Some of these areas are grayer than others, & the circumstances most definitely
rise to the level of unconstitutionality, eg, Stop-N-Frisk in public areas. But I'm not
talking so much about what government can take. Instead, I address the fact that
some rights cannot be waived contractually. (Mental fog prevents me from recalling
my specific landlordly experience with this. Otherwise, I'd offer examples.) Giving
up a "secure person" right in order to fly on a plane is permitted.
YmirGF
Bodhisattva in Recovery
Thank Obama for keeping it all going strong.
It was during Rudy Giuliani's time in office. Apparently it did help bring the rate of violent crime. However, I'm not sure what the protocal for stop and frisk was. Did the officer need to have resonable suspicion that the individual was up to no good?
I am assuming that was the idea, but with that kind of discretion, there is bound to be abuse.
I am assuming that was the idea, but with that kind of discretion, there is bound to be abuse.
Maybe. But I haven't researched it enough to know. I guess that can be my homework assignment.
tytlyf
Not Religious
Obama didn't create more government and government employees.Thank Obama for keeping it all going strong.
Bush is always blamed because Obama inherited policies which endure.Thank Obama for keeping it all going strong.
What's odd though is that Obama's continuation of bad policies often earns
Bush criticism. The left must think our prez is quite incapable.
But to the TSA.....the problem isn't its existence, but rather how its run.
Kill 'em?
Seriously I just don't know.
Jail works.
While they are in jail.
Then they get out and do it some more.
I hate to use the cliche "look at the parents", but look at the parents.
Being college educated, being a disabled copper, being addicted to alcohol, being as I met lots of
people in rehab, I can say with authority that cocaine is bad and heroin is downright epidemic.
Why?
I just don't know.
I DO know there are many, many, social factors involved.
I have three sons. 50, 46, and 17.
SEVENTEEN! How'd that happen?
My 46 year old is paroled to me after serving 6 years in prison for burglary driven by drug addiction.
He learned a very hard lesson. Hard on his father also.
He is clean and will stay clean because he WANTS to.
He knows that clean people run with clean people and he does. He's a skilled builder/carpenter now doing my home
first.
I bought him a truck, gave him tools, and he's working his butt off and attends recovery group meetings
with me.
I am proud of him.
I seriously doubt he'll relapse and I doubt I will either.
I suffer from alcoholism.
I'm in remission also and attend recovery meetings at least 5 X a week.
A profound belief in God is essential for me in recovery.
I darned near died of this illness.
Once I was in a hospital 24 hours after my last drink and still had a blood alcohol level of .40%.
I should have died.
McBell
Resident Sourpuss
I fail to see the point in dragging out irrelevant points.
YmirGF
Bodhisattva in Recovery
Agree wholeheartedly with the last part, Rev.
We can agree about this failure.
[QUOTit="Revoltingest, post: 4898936, member: 22490"]People cannot legally give up some rights by contract.
More compelling is the extraordinary circumstance of a huge herd of people squeezed into
a flying pathogenic torture chamber which is barely held above certain death by a small air
pressure differential on a few spindly airfoils. One tiny bomblet would.....well.....you know.[/QUOTE]
That It. I'm never flying.
More compelling is the extraordinary circumstance of a huge herd of people squeezed into
a flying pathogenic torture chamber which is barely held above certain death by a small air
pressure differential on a few spindly airfoils. One tiny bomblet would.....well.....you know.[/QUOTE]
That It. I'm never flying.
I'd refuse to fly too, but it's a stay married thing.
Mrs Revolt likes travel, & wants my company.
The best I can do is negotiate frequency, duration, & timing.