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Do you believe Sorcerers?

EtuMalku

Abn Iblis ابن إبليس
Im using this thread as a help/discussion about those people.
Im using the term witch as the umbrella for my related problem ''fortune telling''. i dont give a flyn fk about what specific kind of term ''fortune telling is under in''. but i need to i guess...

i came here if anyone one had a experience by being cursed by someone or know any reference.

i just want them to leave me alone. Every time im free of stress, free of paranoia, or im just being FREE....... sooner or later something always has to come back and haunt me...which is those witches being stitches.
Since you are not giving any flying ****s . . . so shall I

There is no such thing as Fortune Telling other than a form of entertainment and/or delusion
You cannot be 'Cursed' by anyone else, all you can do is Believe you are cursed and enable this delusion to create change within yourself accordingly

Fortune Tellers are not necessarily Witches, and none of this idiocy has anything to do with Sorcery.
 

lovesong

:D
Premium Member
Im using this thread as a help/discussion about those people.
Im using the term witch as the umbrella for my related problem ''fortune telling''. i dont give a flyn fk about what specific kind of term ''fortune telling is under in''. but i need to i guess...

i came here if anyone one had a experience by being cursed by someone or know any reference.

i just want them to leave me alone. Every time im free of stress, free of paranoia, or im just being FREE....... sooner or later something always has to come back and haunt me...which is those witches being stitches.
There's a big difference between witches and fortune tellers. Witch refers to a person who practices magic, whereas a fortune teller is person who claims to be able to see the future. There is also a difference between diviners and people who call themselves fortune tellers. People who say they are fortune tellers of often con artists, masters of low scale manipulation, they use similar techniques as diviners but only give answers that the customer wants to hear. You have nothing to worry about when dealing with this kind of fortune teller, and frankly nothing to worry about with diviners either.

As for witches, yes it is possible for someone to work magic against you but the odds are very unlikely, and any effects from it would be minor. The kind of curses and hexes you see in movies are completely unrealistic, you have no need to be paranoid about those sorts of things happening to you.
 

Kapalika

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Witches are real. I know some in real life.

What isn't real is accurate fortune telling (unless it uses some kind of cold reading and logic but then that isn't magic).
 

Riverwolf

Amateur Rambler / Proud Ergi
Premium Member
Im using this thread as a help/discussion about those people.
Im using the term witch as the umbrella for my related problem ''fortune telling''. i dont give a flyn fk about what specific kind of term ''fortune telling is under in''. but i need to i guess...

I'm not sure it's wise to lump "doctors" and "businessmen" under the same term. Same applies here.

If you want help, you need to be specific.

i came here if anyone one had a experience by being cursed by someone or know any reference.

I've never been cursed, at least deliberately. And any curses that may have been laid upon me accidentally have been best fought by getting information about the thing I'm most afraid of.

i just want them to leave me alone. Every time im free of stress, free of paranoia, or im just being FREE....... sooner or later something always has to come back and haunt me...which is those witches being stitches.

It honestly sounds far more like you're dealing with some combination of anxiety and depression, and perhaps going a bit stir crazy. That's when you're most vulnerable to social engineering, or as I call it, Speechcraft.
 

David1967

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Sorcerers: everybody knows a witch.
sorcerers are becoming a popular trend for the young. Im sure the trend came from music mostly and ancient artifact.

Im seeing signs that these people are fortune telling me. i know that people are seeing my future through black magic or something. I know its my family and old friends.i just dont how to block the magic stuff. Mk ultra makes me delusion.

is it because i had a connection with family and something bad has happened???

I dont worry about witches or sorcerers. The only power they have over you is what you give them. Silly little people really.
 

Subhankar Zac

Hare Krishna,Hare Krishna,
Does Wicca qualify as sorcery?
Do Catholic prayers qualify as sorcery if they say "Amen" at the end?
Do Hindu blessings to children, animals the poor with the word "Tathastu" qualify as sorcery?

The concept doesn't clear if it's magick, blessing, prayers or black magic.
I feel like it is more of a transfer of our emotions and energy to our object of our desire.
That's not very difficult than prayers... It's just only is allowed as the other was vilified for centuries.
Religions of Hinduism concerning Kali take part in Tantra and some in Vajrayana Buddhism.
I only visited once when I was young but animal slaughter was a gross turn off for me... But I do find it possible to for the desire of someone to hate someone else could occur by the intensity of the focus they put there constantly.
Whatever you focus on the most, it slowly materializes, whether one uses animal blood, frogs, potions or spells.
 

Pastek

Sunni muslim
Trouble with this is that people get paranoid over even smallest things and go crazy. If you are really worried about your family & yourself that someone might do you harm with magic I would recommend you seek some Muslim who's doing Arabic magic to make you talismans and similar, I know few people who got better after Arab magic was done on them.

(Note: I knew these people even before I converted to Islam and had same opinion)

Actually this is haram.
And if he really have a problem he shouldn't look after them they are of no use.
Ask any Imam, he'll tell you a muslim who does magic is not a muslim.
 

Raahim

مكتوب
Actually this is haram.
And if he really have a problem he shouldn't look after them they are of no use.
Ask any Imam, he'll tell you a muslim who does magic is not a muslim.

I'm aware that it's haram, but still I think it's more complex since person is using something that is haram to help someone.
 

Pastek

Sunni muslim
I'm aware that it's haram, but still I think it's more complex since person is using something that is haram to help someone.

I understand what you mean, but it's still not possible that way even if it's to help.
 

Pastek

Sunni muslim
So you don't believe that jinns have influence on us?
They would explain many things that happen to some people to be honest.

Of course they can influence people, i was just talking about what you said "arabic magic".
Magic is magic, and as believers we can only rely to God and if we want to be healed there's halal way for that.
 

Kueid

Avant-garde
Im using this thread as a help/discussion about those people.
Im using the term witch as the umbrella for my related problem ''fortune telling''. i dont give a flyn fk about what specific kind of term ''fortune telling is under in''. but i need to i guess...

i came here if anyone one had a experience by being cursed by someone or know any reference.

i just want them to leave me alone. Every time im free of stress, free of paranoia, or im just being FREE....... sooner or later something always has to come back and haunt me...which is those witches being stitches.
I know what you need to do... every time something is coming back to haunt you just put the palm of you hand in your forehead and repeat three times "freejuice" wile the other hand snaps fingers.. after that, crouch real quickly and the get up... if you are still feeling "bad" repeat the process from the beginning.
 

Meander_Z

Member
Reality is made of stories. Sorcerers can be very real to those who believe in them. My advice is cultivate your own power so that you have less fear of power in others. This can be done in conjunction with any faith. If you believe in God and Jesus ask for their assistance and trust that their power is greater than the power of those who mean you harm. If this technique fails you, then it's time to start examining your faith... Why do you trust the power of darkness to create havoc in you life, but have a lack of trust in the powers of light to protect you? Take control of your story... learn how to be a hero rather than a victim. You might find some useful advice in the writings of Carlos Castaneda. He claims to have been under to tutelage of a Sorcerer. Some people believe he wrote pure fantasy, but many others believe in his stories. Beliefs are personal, use what works, discard the rest.
 

seek241

New Member
Alright. I may sound crazy..but i dont belive so. I know what i see.

Also i just wanna say...Everytime i do something with a passion. It predicts an event that is very similoar to what i just did two days ago.

This is what i see. Try to bear.
If we were to be spiritual. Doesnt that means devils and bad things happen follow and comes to us??? (Even if your not)
If a fortune teller seeks into you and use those bad things and controls it upon to you... Doesnt that mean they can create such fortune??

Also i wanna say. Anyone who is into being creative within being a passion. You can predict futures without even knowing....

Sychricity isnt a choice i belive
 

seek241

New Member
One more thing....

Is it possible to be in someone elses body when your dreaming. And that particular dream actually happened. While you regonized that person was you in the dream you had the other few weeks?

I dont mind if you cant help me out
Dont mind me look around here.
 

Kueid

Avant-garde
Alright. I may sound crazy..but i dont belive so. I know what i see.

Also i just wanna say...Everytime i do something with a passion. It predicts an event that is very similoar to what i just did two days ago.

This is what i see. Try to bear.
If we were to be spiritual. Doesnt that means devils and bad things happen follow and comes to us??? (Even if your not)
If a fortune teller seeks into you and use those bad things and controls it upon to you... Doesnt that mean they can create such fortune??

Also i wanna say. Anyone who is into being creative within being a passion. You can predict futures without even knowing....

Sychricity isnt a choice i belive
did you follow what I said?
 

Know it all.

Shaman.
Sorcerers: everybody knows a witch.
sorcerers are becoming a popular trend for the young. Im sure the trend came from music mostly and ancient artifact.

Im seeing signs that these people are fortune telling me. i know that people are seeing my future through black magic or something. I know its my family and old friends.i just dont how to block the magic stuff. Mk ultra makes me delusion.

is it because i had a connection with family and something bad has happened???
I believe in Witches and Sorcerers and magic spells and curses too, etc etc etc.

Fortune telling can be irritating but I see no reason to fight it. When I was much younger (25) a Witch (a nice Witch) told me my fortune which said that I would never have what I wanted most, and it shocked me and it even upset her as she did not know her vision would be so dramatic. Now at 60 years old I can look back and see that what I really wanted at 25 was vain and foolish and it was a blessing to me that I never got it. Strange indeed.

The fact that you are being hurt and paranoid about it all means that you are not spiritually mature enough to deal with that kind of stuff and so you need to separate your self and get away from it.

I know how to deal with Witches and Demons now, but that is after a huge amount of real spiritual work on myself, and I was powerless at 25 when I knew nothing.

One thing that did make a difference for me was when I was around 18ish and me and my girlfriend experienced a real Ghost who actually spoke to me saying "GET OUT OF HERE" and so I got out of there, but in time after that Ghost experience (and other such things) convinced me that there was a very real spirit world and a real spirit life and so that became my basis for understanding that there was a very real God too, and so later when I did research as like reading the Bible then I wanted the Bible to explain that truth to me, instead of going to the Bible in search of truth, and it made a big difference that I already knew of God in real life instead of in the Bible.
 
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