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Kim Davis Thrown In Jail
- Thread starter Skwim
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No way.
What you are advocating here is giving the judge power to overturn an election result if he doesn't like the voters choice.
Tom
Good point.
Koldo
Outstanding Member
No. He would only be able to do what I have said under the same circumstances where he is allowed to send people to jail.
Skwim
Veteran Member
A September 4 update.
Quite a pair, these two. One, a screwed up Christian, and the other a redneck hillbilly.*
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"Joe Davis
appeared outside the Rowan County Courthouse, calling U.S. District Judge David Bunning a bully for jailing his wife Thursday for contempt of court.
“She won’t resign I promise you,” he said. “Until something gives, she’ll be there.” [
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Joe Davis said he went out to eat with the five deputy clerks who agreed in court Thursday to issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples. He said he anticipates that they will keep their word and has no hard feelings against them despite his wife’s adamant refusal to authorize the forms.
Issuing licenses could pave the way for Kim Davis’ release from federal custody, though the judge seems cautious about letting her out too soon. If deputy clerks continue to refuse, the judge is expected to call them back to court.
Joe Davis said he doesn’t respect or fear Bunning, and he laid blame with Kentucky Gov. Steve Beshear, who has declined to call a special session to rewrite state law on marriage certificates.
“You ain’t no governor because you have no backbone,” he said.
Davis said he spoke with his wife last night on the phone and the family plans to continue fighting. He said he plans to go to Frankfort next week to confront Beshear."
source
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"Joe Davis also says he's a registered Democrat, but he will never vote Democrat again.
He says Gov. Mike Huckabee personally called Kim on her cell phone to support her, and says Huckabee will be coming to Kentucky on Tuesday.
Joe Davis says Kim has no plans to resign, and their son, Nathan Davis, a Rowan County deputy clerk, will not issue any marriage licenses, but will not stand in the way of others.
"Bunning cannot bully me, my wife or my son," Davis said. "I taught my son how to stand up for what's right and what he believes in at any cost. Bunning doesn't know how to pick on somebody that can handle him. The only thing he knows how to do is to pick up on the weak people.
"So therefore, I'm not weak, I'm strong. I would defy him -- I'd defy our government. We have no government in the United States anymore, none whatsoever."
Davis says If necessary,he and his son, Nathan, are prepared to go jail. He says the family has received death threats.
source
appeared outside the Rowan County Courthouse, calling U.S. District Judge David Bunning a bully for jailing his wife Thursday for contempt of court.
“She won’t resign I promise you,” he said. “Until something gives, she’ll be there.” [
]Joe Davis said he went out to eat with the five deputy clerks who agreed in court Thursday to issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples. He said he anticipates that they will keep their word and has no hard feelings against them despite his wife’s adamant refusal to authorize the forms.
Issuing licenses could pave the way for Kim Davis’ release from federal custody, though the judge seems cautious about letting her out too soon. If deputy clerks continue to refuse, the judge is expected to call them back to court.
Joe Davis said he doesn’t respect or fear Bunning, and he laid blame with Kentucky Gov. Steve Beshear, who has declined to call a special session to rewrite state law on marriage certificates.
“You ain’t no governor because you have no backbone,” he said.
Davis said he spoke with his wife last night on the phone and the family plans to continue fighting. He said he plans to go to Frankfort next week to confront Beshear."
source
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"Joe Davis also says he's a registered Democrat, but he will never vote Democrat again.
He says Gov. Mike Huckabee personally called Kim on her cell phone to support her, and says Huckabee will be coming to Kentucky on Tuesday.
Joe Davis says Kim has no plans to resign, and their son, Nathan Davis, a Rowan County deputy clerk, will not issue any marriage licenses, but will not stand in the way of others.
"Bunning cannot bully me, my wife or my son," Davis said. "I taught my son how to stand up for what's right and what he believes in at any cost. Bunning doesn't know how to pick on somebody that can handle him. The only thing he knows how to do is to pick up on the weak people.
"So therefore, I'm not weak, I'm strong. I would defy him -- I'd defy our government. We have no government in the United States anymore, none whatsoever."
Davis says If necessary,he and his son, Nathan, are prepared to go jail. He says the family has received death threats.
source
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Would you be more specific? What you said sounds like giving judges the power to overrule elections.
He has the power to hold people in contempt of court. But not to overturn election results, you need the governor to initiate that.
Tom
Koldo
Outstanding Member
Under circumstances where people would be jailed for contempt of court, the judge would have the option to merely remove the individuals out of their duties temporarily.
That is not how it works in a democratic republic. She was elected by the voters in Rowan County and it is a big effing deal to overturn the election.
Tom
Koldo
Outstanding Member
It is not an overturn. If that is an overturn, then sending her to jail is an overturn.
not at all
Koldo
Outstanding Member
Then what I propose is not an overturn at all either.
how is it not ? striping an elected official of office is the definition of an overturn and the judge does not have the power to do what you suggest nor should they .
Koldo
Outstanding Member
And yet he has the power to prevent an elected official to perform her role by sending her to jail. My suggestion merely removes the middleman.
you simply cannot, it does not work that way and cannot because democracy . an unelected official can not and should not have that power . and she went to jail because she flouted a court order which is a crime
Koldo
Outstanding Member
I must disagree. If a judge has the power to ( temporarily ) jail someone thus effectively stripping this person out of her role, then it only make senses he should be able to do that without sending such person to jail.
no that would be undoing an election nothing gives him that power.
Koldo
Outstanding Member
I disagree. I don't think that would be the same as undoing an election. In the same way that sending someone to jail under the same circumstance is not the same as undoing an election.
one is temporary one is not . one has legal and constitutional justification one does not. as far as American politics goes your wrong .
You might disagree that Canada is north of the USA.
But it won't change the facts of the matter.
Tom
Elected officials are not immune to the law & sanctions.
They can be sent to jail for any number of things, eg, violating this court order, conviction for a felony (eg, Blagojevich).
While this has the effect of preventing them from performing their duties, it is not to over-turn an election.
They may return to their job as soon as jail time ends.