What is Truth ?!?

I can't get over religions that state their true, but offer no evidence. Let me give you example.

In Christianity, they say that Jesus rose again from the dead. O.K . But, when you ask to see an example, to have it proven to you, they can't do it. Even if you ask for there to be a corpse, clearly dead, and you ask them to demonstrate there ability to raise it from the dead, they can't do it.
So I ask, what is truth ? Are we capable of knowing it ? I met a guy online last night. He has aspergers, lives with his parents, and suffers significant mental illness. All and all, a crappy life. Yet his attitude was so positive, I have to ask myself, does his religion keep him happy ? I don't know.

Paranoid Android said:

I can't get over religions that state their true, but offer no evidence. Let me give you example.

In Christianity, they say that Jesus rose again from the dead. O.K . But, when you ask to see an example, to have it proven to you, they can't do it. Even if you ask for there to be a corpse, clearly dead, and you ask them to demonstrate there ability to raise it from the dead, they can't do it.
So I ask, what is truth ? Are we capable of knowing it ? I met a guy online last night. He has aspergers, lives with his parents, and suffers significant mental illness. All and all, a crappy life. Yet his attitude was so positive, I have to ask myself, does his religion keep him happy ? I don't know.

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Hi android

You asked what is the truth..and I think every person will answer it from their point of view. For me the truth is that God is one who created us to worship him without any partners and send messengers and prophets to spread this message and for them to be an example. For me the proof is in the Quran but also in the creation around us..the creation of the sky earth, mankind is enough for me to belief in a creator.

And believing this is where my heart finds peace and hapiness.

In my opinion, some religions are not a religion based on facts but on faith and experience. For example, christian John can believe Jesus was raised from the dead BUT he believes that "raising from the dead" is another way of saying when he dies he "will be" raised to be with God forever. Its based on Johns experience and spiritual convction that he will go to God "be ressurected" to go to God. You cannot proove this is true or not because no one but John has that conviction. It is personal.

Christian Bob may believe in the literal resurrection. However, his conviction is based on Faith/hope that it is in fact true. You cannot prove something true when the tesimony is based on the hope that it is.

Yet both are christians. Each person is different.
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"supernatural oriented" religions are based on faith from a personal point of view.

As long as a believer have to say "I believe...its my view..." its not a fact. Facts are not beliefs.
I KNOW two and two is four. It is true no matter how one defines it.

Religion is not like that. To think it is, I believe youll be wasting time on finding the underlining truth on others opinions.

It doesnt work that way.

Paranoid Android said:

I can't get over religions that state their true, but offer no evidence. Let me give you example.

In Christianity, they say that Jesus rose again from the dead. O.K . But, when you ask to see an example, to have it proven to you, they can't do it. Even if you ask for there to be a corpse, clearly dead, and you ask them to demonstrate there ability to raise it from the dead, they can't do it.
So I ask, what is truth ? Are we capable of knowing it ? I met a guy online last night. He has aspergers, lives with his parents, and suffers significant mental illness. All and all, a crappy life. Yet his attitude was so positive, I have to ask myself, does his religion keep him happy ? I don't know.

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Paranoid Android said:

I can't get over religions that state their true, but offer no evidence. Let me give you example.

In Christianity, they say that Jesus rose again from the dead. O.K . But, when you ask to see an example, to have it proven to you, they can't do it. Even if you ask for there to be a corpse, clearly dead, and you ask them to demonstrate there ability to raise it from the dead, they can't do it.

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If you want evidence of religious miracles with documentation you would have to go modern like the Fatima miracle.

The term 'Truth' gets at the fabric of reality and not so much evidence of something like a resurrection.

But, if that is true, how can God send anyone to Hell ? So many religions, all of them saying THERE way is TRUE ! How do you pick ? How do you know your not being scammed ? Sheesh..

Everyone's aware of truth already.
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Depends upon how a person accepts the reality of how things actually are and works with it, or rather instead, prefers some embellishment and fabrication to it all, thus making a very nice stained glass and rose colored world to live in with God's and angels and whatever stuff suits it.

Paranoid Android said:

But, if that is true, how can God send anyone to Hell ? So many religions, all of them saying THERE way is TRUE ! How do you pick ? How do you know your not being scammed ? Sheesh..

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My advice to you as a seeker: You can only take positively changed lives as proof of the benefits of any religion. Begin your search there. Whom do you truly admire? Get to know them personally, not from a distance. Why do you admire them? Are they the same in private as they are in public? That is the best way to be a seeker and not waste a lot of your personal time.

Run away from those who say that miracles prove anything. What good is it to you if you obtain super powers but no common sense? Where is the benefit if you need a continuous supply of miracles to bolster your religious obedience? What is eternal life to someone who hates life? Shouldn't the religion itself be like a miracle? So right there you know that a good religion has no need of miracles to make it more interesting. If there are miracles, then that's fine but they won't be the main attraction.

You mentioned Christianity. I'm Christian, but I couldn't care less whether you eventually became a Christian or a pomegranate. I don't need miracles, and I don't care about miracles; because I understand what Christianity is about. Its about pretty much the same things as many other religions. There are many people who pursue miracles in Christianity, but they may as well be seeking their own navels. I'm so familiar with miraculous claims and can give you the benefit of my experience. Ignore claims of miracles, because they are worthless to a seeker. Seek freely.

If you want to find all the answers to your questions, just read the Quran.Actually, I found this program is interesting, so I thought of posting it.

For me personally truth is who we are, its our true self, and we are all One in truth.

Anything which takes you closer to GOD is truth.

Paranoid Android said:

I can't get over religions that state their true, but offer no evidence. Let me give you example.

In Christianity, they say that Jesus rose again from the dead. O.K . But, when you ask to see an example, to have it proven to you, they can't do it. Even if you ask for there to be a corpse, clearly dead, and you ask them to demonstrate there ability to raise it from the dead, they can't do it.
So I ask, what is truth ? Are we capable of knowing it ? I met a guy online last night. He has aspergers, lives with his parents, and suffers significant mental illness. All and all, a crappy life. Yet his attitude was so positive, I have to ask myself, does his religion keep him happy ? I don't know.

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I am a Fisherman. The largest fish I ever caught was a Fluke or Flounder I don't remember and was 29 1/2 inches long as measured on the party boat. I came in second in the pool. Other than this story I can offer no proof. I have no picture and we ate the fish. The thought of it keeps me happy. The thought of it make me still go fishing on party boats to this day in hopes of catching something bigger. Because of over fishing I have not even seen a fish that was close. Yet someday I know I will get a bigger fish if I just keep trying.

This is God.

Hi all, I would like to help by introducing my religion which I feel very satisfied with.. It's Islam relgion which actaully
the religion for all the prophets with some few differents regards practicing some worshiping ways..

The word Islam means voluntary “Submission” or “Surrender” to the Will of God. It derives from the root word “salam,” meaning peace.

In the Quran, God defines that the only purpose for which He created mankind is to Worship Him. Islam recognizes that humankind has free choice in whether to obey or disobey God, but ultimately we will be held accountable to God in the next life for the choices that we make in this life. (Read more: Concept of God in Islam)

Paranoid Android said:

I can't get over religions that state their true, but offer no evidence. Let me give you example.

In Christianity, they say that Jesus rose again from the dead. O.K . But, when you ask to see an example, to have it proven to you, they can't do it. Even if you ask for there to be a corpse, clearly dead, and you ask them to demonstrate there ability to raise it from the dead, they can't do it.
So I ask, what is truth ? Are we capable of knowing it ? I met a guy online last night. He has aspergers, lives with his parents, and suffers significant mental illness. All and all, a crappy life. Yet his attitude was so positive, I have to ask myself, does his religion keep him happy ? I don't know.

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Truth is an experience and a story. For the creature it will end up going beyond body and mind to "The Self".

Truth may be found in part in every scripture through out the world. You might say truth is a resonance. If you hear a good piece of music and it makes you stop and become introspective this means there is truth residing with it. You resonate with the instruments as they emit their notes. In life things will put one in a positive mode and negative mode by their very nature. If associating with positive mode things makes your person strong or energized you should do that for that is healthy. Look at
the different faiths in this same manner. Find that spiritual path that leaves you strong or energized for it is truth the others are not for you.

Paranoid Android said:

I can't get over religions that state their true, but offer no evidence. Let me give you example.

In Christianity, they say that Jesus rose again from the dead. O.K . But, when you ask to see an example, to have it proven to you, they can't do it. Even if you ask for there to be a corpse, clearly dead, and you ask them to demonstrate there ability to raise it from the dead, they can't do it.
So I ask, what is truth ? Are we capable of knowing it ? I met a guy online last night. He has aspergers, lives with his parents, and suffers significant mental illness. All and all, a crappy life. Yet his attitude was so positive, I have to ask myself, does his religion keep him happy ? I don't know.

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What is Truth? Interesting and loaded question. I think the question is an answer. True and honest religion seeks nothing else but the truth. The why of existence and their place in the world. It is a mystery why God did not give us more clear and tangible evidence of himself, but maybe he is looking for sincere looking for truth and faith from people with a good heart. Maybe no one knows God completely because he doesn't want one group to boast or be superior to another. He is looking for hope and faith, not necessarily a scientist - even though of course science has its place but not meant to answer the why of existence just the how.

When Jesus said to Pontius Pilate "....the reason I was born and came into the world is to testify to the truth. Everyone on the side of truth listens to me."
Pilate aside, "What is truth" with this he went out again to the Jews.

Some say that Pilate was not really looking for an answer, but was rhetorical question. Pilate felt that truth was relative. Jesus says that He is the truth and he testifies to the truth.

I believe I found the truth in Jesus. The only proof I have is the testimony of his apostles, his witnesses today, and my covenant relationship with Him. I wish I had a miracle or a sign that I am on the right path and I will keep looking, but my job is to be able to recognize it when it happens or recognize Him when I see Him or evidence of Him. As long as you earnestly seek the truth with a sincere heart you will find it.

Paranoid Android said:

So I ask, what is truth ? Are we capable of knowing it ?

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Truth is only knowable after removing all the fallacies within a subject..... To many people are trying to establish the truth, in a world full of lies; it is far easier to establish what is false, then know what the truth is.

Paranoid Android said:

I can't get over religions that state their true, but offer no evidence. Let me give you example.

In Christianity, they say that Jesus rose again from the dead. O.K . But, when you ask to see an example, to have it proven to you, they can't do it. Even if you ask for there to be a corpse, clearly dead, and you ask them to demonstrate there ability to raise it from the dead, they can't do it.
So I ask, what is truth ? Are we capable of knowing it ? I met a guy online last night. He has aspergers, lives with his parents, and suffers significant mental illness. All and all, a crappy life. Yet his attitude was so positive, I have to ask myself, does his religion keep him happy ? I don't know.

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1: Aspergers is not sever enough to require someone to live with their parents, he is just as pathetic as a normal human that does that.

2: Truth is the Opposite of Faith.

Strategic Philosopher said:

I think you have a misunderstanding of some Aspergers. There is a scale of intensity for aspergers, as there is for all types of autism and most other mental birth effects. Saying that aspergers is not severe enough when you have not met the person is just an assumption which could very well be incorrect. Going on to call them pathetic for living with their parents for a condition is just rude, especially when that was not the topic at hand, and isn't actually answering op's later question based on happiness.

To answer op's question. If there was viewable "evidence" aside from holy books then we would only have one religion, as everyone would have converted already. We would not need religious faith as we know it if we had evidence.

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1: Aspergers is no longer considred a disorder by the DSM 5 and for good reason, I was misdiagnosed with Aspergers for not wanting to socialize (compared to not being able to) and after the DSM 5 it was abolished. Seeming as I could be diagnosed with Aspergers with an IQ of 147 and I moved out and thrived the i doubt that it would drop you from moving out.

2: Unless the evidance requires you to seek it so that we do not have one religion.

Strategic Philosopher said:

1) I did not call it a disorder, although, it definitely has some negative effects on a person, some of which could potentially prevent someone from living alone in extreme cases.
Bringing up your false diagnosis doesn't support your claim, and it wouldn't even if the diagnosis was not false. Someones IQ has nothing to do with their ability to live alone, your IQ had nothing to do with your success in moving out. Your intelligence quotient measures cognitive skills, which are generally very different from the skills/knowledge required to live alone.

2) That is correct. I should have clarified my statement more, I was meaning to say that if there were evidence the average person could observe or experience with ease the human race would have converted, although there are many factors to presume, I was making a broad statement.

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1) Aspergers as a whole is no longer considred by the scientific community. And IQ determines how easily you can pick up skills, seeming as when Aspergers was used as a diagnosis it was to brand someone who had average or higher cognitive skills but below average social skills, IQ would help someone contract a learning disability. What part of being by himself can he not handle?

Strategic Philosopher said:

1) I did not call it a disorder, although, it definitely has some negative effects on a person, some of which could potentially prevent someone from living alone in extreme cases.
Bringing up your false diagnosis doesn't support your claim, and it wouldn't even if the diagnosis was not false. Someones IQ has nothing to do with their ability to live alone, your IQ had nothing to do with your success in moving out. Your intelligence quotient measures cognitive skills, which are generally very different from the skills/knowledge required to live alone.

2) That is correct. I should have clarified my statement more, I was meaning to say that if there were evidence the average person could observe or experience with ease the human race would have converted, although there are many factors to presume, I was making a broad statement.

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And to number 2 that is exactly why my religion is extremely reclusive.

Paranoid Android said:

I can't get over religions that state their true, but offer no evidence. Let me give you example.

In Christianity, they say that Jesus rose again from the dead. O.K . But, when you ask to see an example, to have it proven to you, they can't do it. Even if you ask for there to be a corpse, clearly dead, and you ask them to demonstrate there ability to raise it from the dead, they can't do it.
So I ask, what is truth ? Are we capable of knowing it ? I met a guy online last night. He has aspergers, lives with his parents, and suffers significant mental illness. All and all, a crappy life. Yet his attitude was so positive, I have to ask myself, does his religion keep him happy ? I don't know.

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In philosophical terms, Truth is knowledge that will always be accurate.

Religions can keep people happy, one of the central and most profound messages of the movie The Matrix was the conflict between truth and ignorance. In the movie the main protagonist, who goes by Neo, is offered a red pill and a blue pill. If Neo took the red pill he would find out the truth of the world, if he took the blue he would remain in ignorance. It is later revealed in the film that one of the other characters had betrayed his friends in order to try to regain the bliss that was ignorance.

It seems to me that there are two main paths through life.

1) You take the comforting lies, you believe what you want to be true and you will (often violently) defend it.

2) You seek the truth, you will not be given any comfort or refuge from the harsh reality that is truth.

I choose the second but I understand (though do not agree) why many take the former.