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Why "G-d" instead of "God"?

Tumah

Veteran Member
That is where I am confused because the page I visited implied that the four letters were part of the Name of God - with letters left out so as not to announce the actual name. They did not say it was a descriptive of aspects.

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I think the disconnect is that whenever we are saying something in relation to G-d we are saying it in the form of metaphor. G-d does not have a physical hand, so when Scriptures uses the phrase "G-d's hand" it is using metaphor (or more accurately, that our hands are a metaphor for the spiritual concept of G-d's hand). The same is true for "G-d's Name". G-d does not a name as we do, because the Infinite G-d can't be encapsulated into a finite idea by which to be called. So the concept of name is being used as a sort of metaphor, with various Names being used to represent various perceptions of our experience of Him.
 
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leibowde84

Veteran Member
It is a Jewish custom not to erase G-d's name. On this electronic forum, my posts containing His name could be deleted at any time. To avoid the possibility of that, I spell the name as G-d. Then if it get deleted, it's only a representation of His name that is deleted.

Besides no meaning is lost. Leaving the o off, doesn't prevent anyone for knowing whom I'm talking about.
Fair enough.
 

rosends

Well-Known Member
Hebrew did not have vowels. Therefore, they avoid a vowel in G-d's name too. Following a pious Old Testament tradition.
Written Hebrew might not have had vowel points, but Hebrew had vowels. There would be no reason, though, to eliminate vowels in English because of the convention of written Hebrew. The tradition developed because of the concern over the sanctity of the word in English and the possibility that writing it in a non-prayer context would be improper according to certain opinions.
 

Brickjectivity

wind and rain touch not this brain
Staff member
Premium Member
I think this is all very helpful, but I can't help but think about what this means for Christians. I tend to think there is more to this hyphenation and continue to think of the meaning of this name as representing a very far away point where is the object that we aren't actually discussing. Are Christians aware of that? I don't think so in general. 'Metaphor' does not seem to cover it, either. After much post-sunday-school discovery I prefer to think of 'God' as a discovery made later some time after the Torah was received, so that originally perhaps the Torah wasn't assumed to come from a person or being necessarily. No one appeared on the mountain. No one appeared in the 'Burning bush'. Maybe the idea of the 'Being' or 'Person' of God was a discovery that came later after Torah. Perhaps the being or the person is as much metaphor as 'Hand' or as 'Name'. So, is it really appropriate to start Children off believing in God as a thing that they understand? It seems to me a disservice, much like having children memorize many Math formulas without showing them how to derive anything first.

Now whether God was discovered or invented I don't know. Perhaps God was encountered in service to Torah? Maybe God was encountered in service to Torah and then the understanding of God was enhanced when Jews encountered Persians? This all up in the air for me. What is not up in the air is that perhaps the hyphen does not go far enough.

I like what Tumah says about the whole metaphor thing. Maybe that helps me understand some of the religious conversation. I also thought it was very interesting what Rosends said about one 'Name' relating to justice and one to mercy. The interactions between ideal justice and ideal mercy are complex, and its difficult to unite the two.
I think the disconnect is that whenever we are saying something in relation to G-d we are saying it in the form of metaphor (or more accurately, that our hands are a metaphor for the spiritual concept of a hand). G-d does not have a physical hand, so when Scriptures uses the phrase "G-d's hand" it is using metaphor. The same is true for "G-d's Name". G-d does not a name as we do, because the Infinite G-d can't be encapsulated into a finite idea by which to be called. So the concept of name is being used as a sort of metaphor, with various Names being used to represent various perceptions of our experience of Him.
 

Ouroboros

Coincidentia oppositorum
So "G-d" can be written ( sort of ), but not spoken?
Perhaps it can be seen a bit like Tao. God is not a name. It's a reference to an idea or concept rather. A concept that is impossible for us to understand completely, and by writing it like G-d, the point is made that we can't even grasp what it is we're referring to. It's bigger, deeper, more complex than our understanding, and beyond any thought. Something like that.
 

Akivah

Well-Known Member
Maybe unless it is staff, how would someone have access to delete God online in this forum?

I don't know about you, but this is not the first religious website that I've ever posted at. There were about three before this and none of them exist anymore. Taken down and deleted by the former owners.

Also, something Im curious of. God has no name? Wouldnt it be safe to say God is a word we use to represent the Creator but if destroyed does not mean we are destroying Gods name but the written title of it? It is similar to tearing up my name and assuming that affects me as if "Carlita" is who I am not the name that represents me for conversation sake.

I understand and respect why it is done. Just a question that poped in my head.

You're really thinking too much about this. G-d has a name. It is what I think of when referring to my deity. So I leave the o off in this English representation of my Deity's name. Personal preference.
 

Akivah

Well-Known Member
That's interesting! That would make sense then. If it's never fully written out, it cannot be inadvertently erased? What about the tetragrammaton? What about pronouncing it? I've always thought it was replaced by saying Adonai or something else. Can you clarify how or if that fits in with this practice of typing G-d?

G-d's name is holy. I don't even write the Hebrew phonetics of it anywhere.
 

Brickjectivity

wind and rain touch not this brain
Staff member
Premium Member
God did, though he showed only his hind parts; for the benefit of Moses. Then came the begotten Son, messengers, manifestations, prophets and Mahdis; benefit of other people. And it continues.
The invisible begotten Son, invisible messengers, invisible manifestations, invisible prophets and even an invisible Mahdi? Those don't seem relevant to the conversation. Maybe you are just griping about other people's religions without reference to what your own religion is capable of. Do you happen to remember what the topic is?
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
Its no biggie. I caps the G for respect not for myself but for others who may be insulted by refering to God as just a pronoun rather than a proper one. I would do G-d or pbuh but I wasnt raised in that way of respect. In the long run, it doesnt matter. I understand the deep significance behind it.

I don't know about you, but this is not the first religious website that I've ever posted at. There were about three before this and none of them exist anymore. Taken down and deleted by the former owners.



You're really thinking too much about this. G-d has a name. It is what I think of when referring to my deity. So I leave the o off in this English representation of my Deity's name. Personal preference.
 

guyzer2606

New Member
My understanding is that G-d is more respectful than God because you can't form an image of Him, which is what the proper spelling g would be doing
 
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