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Have you attempted theism?

Jumi

Well-Known Member
I call myself a transtheist because I think that "God" (I don't use that word anymore except for convenience) is...see this is the tough thing, words fail. "God" is a divine reality that can't be comprehended; I'm aware of this divine reality, but my knowledge of it just about stops there. I think it's something beyond time, space, "existence" as we know it, beyond good, bad, and human emotions.
I have vague, abstract thoughts and ideas in my mind about what this transtheistic reality is, but I can't convey them to you. Read the article I posted!
Interesting article since I've never heard of transtheism in any depth. I don't know if I agree what is proposed though. I will take some time to read this.
 

philbo

High Priest of Cynicism
For example, I cannot make myself believe that my neighbour is a ten-foot bird as an act of sheer will.
..but since I moved into Sesame Street, that's got much easier ;)

OT (on topic.. not Old Testament :) ), I agree with what you said above - what I believe isn't consciously chosen, and I've never found any gods particularly easy to believe in, or even a tiny bit credible. Most of them make much more sense as products of the human mind, rather than the other way around.
 

Ouroboros

Coincidentia oppositorum
I'm curious if you did, did you feel you got results from experimenting with theism?
I never experimented with it or just "tried" it, but I was Christian, and in effect atheist, for 30 years (gave myself to Jesus at age 7).

Did it feel like you were connecting to something beyond and what brought you back to non-theism?
Yes. I did feel a connection at times. Most of the time, I didn't. At one point, when I really needed to feel it, there was nothing. Later I became an atheist, but I had some experiences of feeling connected to the universe, and eventually extended my atheism to be naturalistic pantheism.
 

`mud

Just old
Premium Member
Trantheism and Agnosticism are pretty simular in my mind.
Consider the Cosmos out there, with it's billions of galaxies,
and billions and billions of stars and planets,
going in multiple directions.
In what direction are we going, compared to what ?
Choose a direction and pick a god, there's lots of them.
Be careful of the direction you choose,
there's bad ones out there.
~
'mud
 
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`mud

Just old
Premium Member
hey Jumi,
Your profile is closed to the board,
but thanks for the yunowut !
~
'mud
 

Shad

Veteran Member
I'm curious if you did, did you feel you got results from experimenting with theism? Did it feel like you were connecting to something beyond and what brought you back to non-theism?

The result for me were not consistent with logic, history nor reasoning. The appeals to emotions were fallacious and empty once one realizes the placebo effect is primary. Second positives could be found in other social constructs outside of religion.
 

A Vestigial Mote

Well-Known Member
I would say I "sort of" have. I have attended church services, and have been urged by members to try praying to this or about that, which I did because I told them I would. And I let some LDS "elders" into my home at one point, asking them the hard-hitting questions and having them return with answers like "pray about it, and you will come to know that it is true." This went on for a few months before I told them it just wasn't for me.

In the end I just sort of feel like my skepticism is warranted, feels completely "right" for me, and seems very much based on the instincts we have as intelligent beings to be wary of the pedlars of nostrum. I feel that I simply cannot be genuine or authentic about "believing" in a supernatural answer when there is no good, logical reason anyone can give me to do so.
 
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gnomon

Well-Known Member
I'm curious if you did, did you feel you got results from experimenting with theism? Did it feel like you were connecting to something beyond and what brought you back to non-theism?

Raised in it.......tried others.........

Didn't take.....

What else is there to say?
 

Deathbydefault

Apistevist Asexual Atheist
I'm curious if you did, did you feel you got results from experimenting with theism? Did it feel like you were connecting to something beyond and what brought you back to non-theism?

Started out (technicality) with theism, Christian fundamentalism to be specific.

Hated the rules, the thoughts, actions, people in general, and wasted days of my life.
I don't think there was ever anything I actually liked about it.

There was no connection, not that I recall anyways (it has been close to 11 years).
Don't want one if there was.

I will likely never experiment with a theism again, not out of being a bigot but from the lack of logic.
If you haven't gone to church before all you hear, IMO, is what they expect you to believe.
And without question to boot.

Absolutely ridiculous.
 

Ouroboros

Coincidentia oppositorum
I'm curious if you did, did you feel you got results from experimenting with theism? Did it feel like you were connecting to something beyond and what brought you back to non-theism?
I'm not sure how you experiment or attempt theism. What would a person do to attempt it?
 
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