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Recent content by joelr

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    Did Jesus Christ Actually Exist?

    Evolutionary biologists have demonstrated humanity did not start with 2 people, we developed out of H. Heidelburgensis over thousands of years. The myths are similar because they are all found in the same area, the Middle East. They traveled as stories. They don't have them in other parts of...
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    Did Jesus Christ Actually Exist?

    He goes over the evidence in his book OHJ, which I have read. OF course he talks about people who don't support his thesis? He just did a huge written debate with a philosopher. He did one or two with Johnthan Sheffield an apologist who is serious about history as well. He did a debate with...
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    Difference in moral thought between atheists and believers

    Why hold a belief you know has no evidence, no logic and are just claims you want to be true?
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    Did Jesus Christ Actually Exist?

    We could have as many extra-Greek mythology text as you could hold in a university, doesn't make it true. These are myths, so is the Bible. Stop saying "my opinion", how many times do Christians respond to "I'm going to investigate the claims" with "YES, definitely, do the work...
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    Did Jesus Christ Actually Exist?

    That works just as well. Satan is not an enemy at war with God, he's his agent. Until....Persian myths became known and respected. Then suddenly the Jewish writers were like "we too are getting new revelations from Yahweh.......he is also at war with Satan! Whatever. The language of the...
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    Difference in moral thought between atheists and believers

    There really isn't such a thing. Everyone has beliefs. Not everyone has beliefs that are completely unsupported by evidence. Because you cannot debate these issues. Someone could say they believed in Thor and you could respond that he is a fictional character in comic books and fiction from...
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    Difference in moral thought between atheists and believers

    The thousands of Priests who assaulted children, were the ones we found out about, but in prior generations it must have been the same. They are theists. The Bible itself says to stone children, take plunder of war, women remain silent in church, take slaves. The Nazis were theists, they wore a...
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    Did Jesus Christ Actually Exist?

    16 And when the angel stretched out his hand toward Jerusalem to destroy it, the LORD repented Him of the evil, and said to the angel that destroyed the people: 'It is enough; now stay thy hand.' And the angel of the LORD was by the threshing-floor of Araunah the Jebusite. {S} And David spoke...
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    Protestantism, Catholicism, Orthodoxism, Anglicanism

    Yes it does, he really puts it in perspective.
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    Did Jesus Christ Actually Exist?

    Where Carrier said that was actually about the James reference. He put together a paper in 2012 with a summary of the arguments as well as his own. This James passage was unknown to Origen (despite his explicit search of Josephus for Jesus material in his answer to Celsus). All claims to the...
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    Difference in moral thought between atheists and believers

    Every believer says that , Mormon, Muslim, JW,....Heavens Gate all drank poison so their soul could get on a ufo. People will buy into beliefs. What you need is evidence. If you care about what is actually true. Doesn't seem he does because there are billions of Muslims, billions of...
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    Atheists believe in miracles more than believers

    Who says that? Science doesn't say that. Apologists using strawmen to make arguments do often use that. Science does not say the big bang was an explosion. At all. Its' a change of state, nothing exploded. Science says we do not know why the universe was compact and the fundamental laws may...
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    Protestantism, Catholicism, Orthodoxism, Anglicanism

    I didn't realize how much of an interpretation the Bible is until I listened to Joel Baden, a Professor at Yale talk about the development of the books. Click-bait-y title but Baden is very smart. Harvard grad, works at Yale.
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    Did Jesus Christ Actually Exist?

    Joseph Campbell knew this as well: " “MOYERS: What about this idea of good and evil in mythology, of life as a conflict between the forces of darkness and the forces of light? CAMPBELL: That is a Zoroastrian idea, which has come over into Judaism and Christianity. In other...
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    Did Jesus Christ Actually Exist?

    Adam and Eve is an older story, there are many versions. An African version has the serpent telling the woman to eat the forbidden fruit. The serpent isn't a "devil", it's a being who gives knowledge to creatures. The story is a metaphor in many ways. Heavenly gardens, first man/woman and...
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