paarsurrey
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Then read the original in Arabic.
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There are no mistakes in Quran
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psychoslice
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I myself believe there are mistakes in all scriptures no matter which one, to not see this to me is to be nothing more than arrogant.
paarsurrey
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For example. Please
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I read the versions that hundreds of millions of Muslims read, thank you very much.
psychoslice
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Well there are so many I would need to make a thread, but right now I am just making a statement, I think if you have been around, you may already know the mistakes, but I might make a thread where we all can share the mistakes.
paarsurrey
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There are no mistakes in Quran-Recitation, as it is authored by G-d.
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Sura 3:7
But none knows its interpretation except God and those firmly rooted in knowledge...
By 'those firmly grounded in knowledge' is meant the Prophets of God' not scholars, Mullas or professors.
mahasn ebn sawresho
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Of the biggest mistakes of the Koran
That God in the Koran scary and terrible
It is also very weak
Because it depends on the man in the jihad for his name
This is the essence of Jihad in Islam
Of the biggest mistakes in the Koran that God forgetsAnd also the attributes of God in the Koran
That God Sly
God practiced cunning and deception with human
This is one of the biggest mistakes of mental Koran
If you are scientific errors
Does the Koran is a scientific book
Well explain to us the composition of the fetus from the Koran theory ??
Explain to us the theory of the universe from the Koran?
Is the earth is round or flat?
Explain to us what is the spirit?The historical and you have to know the difference between Mary Mary, the sister of Moses and Christ and why the Koran did not know the difference between them ??
And linguistic mistakes and the heart of the Arabic language
Koran book holds Mistakes
That God in the Koran scary and terrible
It is also very weak
Because it depends on the man in the jihad for his name
This is the essence of Jihad in Islam
Of the biggest mistakes in the Koran that God forgetsAnd also the attributes of God in the Koran
That God Sly
God practiced cunning and deception with human
This is one of the biggest mistakes of mental Koran
If you are scientific errors
Does the Koran is a scientific book
Well explain to us the composition of the fetus from the Koran theory ??
Explain to us the theory of the universe from the Koran?
Is the earth is round or flat?
Explain to us what is the spirit?The historical and you have to know the difference between Mary Mary, the sister of Moses and Christ and why the Koran did not know the difference between them ??
And linguistic mistakes and the heart of the Arabic language
Koran book holds Mistakes
paarsurrey
Veteran Member
You are simply wrong. G-d does not forget:
[20:50]Pharaohsaid, ‘Who then is the Lord of you two, O Moses?’
[20:51]He said, ‘Our Lord is He Who gave unto everything itsproperformandthen guidedit to its proper function.’
[20:52]Pharaohsaid, ‘What then will be the fate of the former generations?’
[20:53]He said, ‘The knowledge thereof is with my Lord recorded in a Book. My Lord neither errs nor forgets.’
[20:54]It is HeWho has made the earth for you a cradle, and has caused pathways for you to run through it; and Who sends down rain from the sky, and thereby We bring forth various kinds of vegetation.
http://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/showChapter.php?ch=20&verse=52
[20:51]He said, ‘Our Lord is He Who gave unto everything itsproperformandthen guidedit to its proper function.’
[20:52]Pharaohsaid, ‘What then will be the fate of the former generations?’
[20:53]He said, ‘The knowledge thereof is with my Lord recorded in a Book. My Lord neither errs nor forgets.’
[20:54]It is HeWho has made the earth for you a cradle, and has caused pathways for you to run through it; and Who sends down rain from the sky, and thereby We bring forth various kinds of vegetation.
http://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/showChapter.php?ch=20&verse=52
Please correct your self.
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mahasn ebn sawresho
Well-Known Member
The copying of state or forgotten to bring a better one or one similar
And write in Arabic alsoThe copying of state or Nnasseha distanced fine them or likeومن ننسخ من اية او ننسها ناتي بخير منها او مثلها
morphesium
Active Member
I think some unsocial elements are purposefully paying paarsurrey to claim that "there are no mistakes in Koran", " Islam doesn't use terror and other uncivilized means to spread itself" etc so as to glorify koran.
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I believe there is a God and He is perfect. I acknowledge that the Quran is the Word of God and therefore perfect. It doesn't mean our finite fallible minds don't see dichotomies or contradictions or paradoxes. What it does mean is that our limited understanding cannot grasp God's Knowledge. We claim to have so much knowledge yet don't know yet how to live in peace. We are very inferior creatures that all we do is war and argue and fight and never learn from our mistakes.
morphesium
Active Member
If God desired that one has to follow koran, he could have inherently embed this "knowledge" into each and everyone of us so that we would all be born with this knowledge, the way one is supposed to live, etc. God never did that because it is not the word of God.
Can you think the logic of sending one prophet, then another, and then another - all to make a particular religion in their name and making wars with each other - you are essentially making your God a fool.
Can you think of the intelligence of someone who writes the book " theory of relativity and quantum electrodynamics for Dogs ( for dalmatians)"- that's what you are claiming with this. Again you are claiming your God to be a moron .
Why is it there is a higher rate of violence, terrorism, barbaric laws, etc among /concerned with Muslim communities?
Your morale and your rational thinking power - these are the true virtues in you through which God can speak to you - and not through any messenger. These are the virtues that can make one ponder so that one can find the truth. The virtues that can make the world a better place to live in.
paarsurrey
Veteran Member
Islam or any other religion does not need any terror to spread. It is the politicians who do it and use name of religion as strategy. Terror is a hindrance in the spread of Islam.
Nobody pays me.
It is my own belief, conviction and experience that there is no mistake in Quran. People don't read verses of Quran intently so their understanding is short to get the correct meaning.
Please read Post #175. That may help.
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Man is a progressive being. He learns as he progresses but learning ABC was essential for going to university. The same with God's Messengers. They guide us with teachings moral, spiritual and social for the level of progress we're ready for and when we've advanced and are ready for more knowledge another Manifestation comes to us. For instance Jesus never taught world unity because the world wasn't even discovered yet. Muhammad taught national unity but again He couldn't teach unity of mankind. But isn't it a coincidence that just when humanity is starting to make extraordinary advances in technology, just before, Baha'u'llah comes along and gives us a blueprint for a world spiritual civilisation?
Now world unity is not only possible but it's happening. And Baha'u'llah said over one hundred years ago 'the world is but one country and mankind its citizens" and now this is happening. His Word is the Creative Word of God that has brought about all these technologies.
morphesium
Active Member
Agreed.
Learning the basics is essential for everyone. If one aspires for more knowledge, skill or specialization further education/training is a must and universities help one in that.
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In this world there are many cultures and civilizations. Some of these are a lot more civilized ( morally, scientifically, etc) than the rest of the civilizations. There were far better civilizations out there even before Islam - who have abolished slavery, kept better social laws, etc.
Let me talk a bit about the nature of our morals.
We all have some level of morale. The good thing about morale is that it is always one step ahead of us. So , listening to your morale makes you better and even better. In effect, it will keep on polishing oneself. Hence, I believe morale can guide one. What greater message (individually tailored message), - can God give us to guide us. . As ones morale polishes oneself individually, collectively it is the society that eventually gets polished; so is social justice- it gets polished; so is social laws - it gets polished. That is the reason why social injustice like slavery, inhumane laws etc that were once much prevalent and legal in our societies are now illegal and abandoned.
We all have some level of morale. The good thing about morale is that it is always one step ahead of us. So , listening to your morale makes you better and even better. In effect, it will keep on polishing oneself. Hence, I believe morale can guide one. What greater message (individually tailored message), - can God give us to guide us. . As ones morale polishes oneself individually, collectively it is the society that eventually gets polished; so is social justice- it gets polished; so is social laws - it gets polished. That is the reason why social injustice like slavery, inhumane laws etc that were once much prevalent and legal in our societies are now illegal and abandoned.
Jesus, Mohammed a messenger - when Bible, Koran etc are full of scientific blunders and you say it came from God. Nothing can be more pathetic. No Christians would accept Mohammed as a messenger. How many Muslims can say Baha'ullah as the next messenger?
Now world unity is not only possible but it's happening. And Baha'u'llah said over one hundred years ago 'the world is but one country and mankind its citizens" and now this is happening. His Word is the Creative Word of God that has brought about all these technologies.[/QUOTE]
Unity is never possible with religion -especially with Abrahamic religions. How many sub groups are there in the Muslim community itself? All fighting with each other for one reason or another. Similary, as time goes, there will be many in Baha'i faith.
paarsurrey
Veteran Member
Does the sun even set scientifically or rise?
Have the borders of any ruling dynasty remained the same in all times in the past?
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Shad
Veteran Member
This argument fails since appearance contradicts the later verses More so this is not in the translation at all nor does it mean appear as or appearance, it is a literal meaning. Nakir doesn't know Arabic nor the Quran Lexicon.
http://corpus.quran.com/wordbyword.jsp?chapter=18&verse=86#(18:86:1)
Nakir fooled you by attempting to change the word into wujida
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