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Are there single fathers, who never married, with children in the West?

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Robert.Evans

You will be assimilated; it is His Will.
Childcare alone often costs more than that. Again, add in food, clothing, medical and dental, diapers, and so on and so forth and yes, it takes well more than 100 week to support a child.

How much do daycare centers cost?

Childcare for babies and toddlers
While your child is in the baby and toddler stages, you'll pay more. That's because kids this age need more hands-on care and so the center must hire more caregivers. The average cost of center-based daycare in the United States is $11,666 per year ($972 a month), but prices range from $3,582 to $18,773 a year ($300 to $1,564 monthly), according to the National Association of Child Care Resource & Referral Agencies (NACCRRA). Parents report higher costs – up to $2,000 a month for infant care – in cities like Boston and San Francisco.
http://www.babycenter.com/0_how-much-youll-spend-on-childcare_1199776.bc
Woman stops at home, most of that is not needed. It does not take that much money to bring up a child unless you want to bring itup that way. some people have nothing and still manage. Most childare is because women are at work...... back to good old feminism again.
 

columbus

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Do you think his behaviour with the women is humanitarian?
Regards
Using the word humanitarian makes your question difficult, but I think I understand it.
The answer is No. His behavior is terrible concerning women. But he is not abusing them. They all know him and his reputation. It's a small town. He picks women who are not marriage material themselves. When they get tired of each other they get divorced and the women are happy enough to have him take on diaper duty.
It's all a big mess, but he is not the sole problem by any means.
Tom
 

Robert.Evans

You will be assimilated; it is His Will.
I mean, just in regards to after-school care (school gets out at 2:30; most parents aren't out of work until 6pm), the cost is going to be at least $60/week. None of this is covered by the State.
Most mothers you mean who don't do their job now, hence the cost.
 

leibowde84

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Woman stops at home, most of that is not needed. It does not take that much money to bring up a child unless you want to bring itup that way. some people have nothing and still manage. Most childare is because women are at work...... back to good old feminism again.
Lol. Women have to work to provide for their children. In most families, one breadwinner isn't nearly enough. So your old-fashioned logic is invalid.
 

Draka

Wonder Woman
Woman stops at home, most of that is not needed. It does not take that much money to bring up a child unless you want to bring itup that way. some people have nothing and still manage. Most childare is because women are at work...... back to good old feminism again.
Uh, hello, we were talking about child support. If child support is ordered it is because a parent is gone from the household. Whether the parent raising the child is a man or a woman they have to work in order to provide for both themselves and the child. So, no, the woman wouldn't be at home, she would be out earning a living to provide for her family. That is not a feminism driven thing, that is one parent is gone thing.
 

Robert.Evans

You will be assimilated; it is His Will.
Lol. Women have to work to provide for their children. In most families, one breadwinner isn't nearly enough. So your old-fashioned logic is invalid.
But that's feminism again. Market forces churchill. Prices go up because there are two wages in the house--- we reap the whirlwind now.
 

paarsurrey

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Using the word humanitarian makes your question difficult, but I think I understand it.
The answer is No. His behavior is terrible concerning women. But he is not abusing them. They all know him and his reputation. It's a small town. He picks women who are not marriage material themselves. When they get tired of each other they get divorced and the women are happy enough to have him take on diaper duty.
It's all a big mess, but he is not the sole problem by any means.
Tom
You mean in other words he is polygamous in nature, want to taste different women, of course not at one time.
Regards
 

Robert.Evans

You will be assimilated; it is His Will.
Uh, hello, we were talking about child support. If child support is ordered it is because a parent is gone from the household. Whether the parent raising the child is a man or a woman they have to work in order to provide for both themselves and the child. So, no, the woman wouldn't be at home, she would be out earning a living to provide for her family. That is not a feminism driven thing, that is one parent is gone thing.
Feminism split the family. That is ungodly, hence the problems. and i explained why the "primordial past"
 

Draka

Wonder Woman
Please tell me what is wrong with a double standard? Would you not treat a cat and dog differently?
Do you treat a female cat differently than a male cat? A female dog differently than a male dog? A female rabbit differently than a male rabbit? We're talking about the same species. About human beings. Not different species. :rolleyes:
 

leibowde84

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Feminism split the family. That is ungodly, hence the problems. and i explained why the "primordial past"
Can you support this? Not that it was the aim of a small portion of women, but that it is actually the cause. Or is this yet another unsubstantiated assumption?
 

Robert.Evans

You will be assimilated; it is His Will.
Do you treat a female cat differently than a male cat? A female dog differently than a male dog? A female rabbit differently than a male rabbit? We're talking about the same species. About human beings. Not different species. :rolleyes:
It was just an example.
 

savagewind

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@Robert.Evans Please pay attention this time.

Remarrying is living in sin (unless they have died)- not that I want to get personal.

It's a good thing I don't believe in your "sin" then.

In no way can you possibly believe that if a man beats the **** out of his wife and treats her like she's less than the muck on his boots that she should be restricted to never find any love or happiness for the rest of her life. If she is lucky enough to get out of that marriage and away from her abuser you would actually hold that she should never love again? Because that is what you are saying when you seem to think that being with anyone unmarried is a "sin" and daring to remarry is a "sin" as well. You are punishing a victim for the rest of their life. You honestly believe that your god holds such standards? If so do you really wonder why anyone would think your god cruel and spiteful?
 
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