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Are there single fathers, who never married, with children in the West?

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Robert.Evans

You will be assimilated; it is His Will.
The only kind of rape I can think of that you might be referring to is statutory. In cases of consensual sex between teens where one is of legal age and one isn't then I can definitely see the father having rights.
This idea of "statuary" rape does not come up in England. 16 is the age and thats it.
But there are many times when might give into their partner. Is that rape? Constantly nagging? A bit different to being gang raped by strangers.
 

Draka

Wonder Woman
Men dont become women nor women become men by merely what they do. That is utterly ridiculous. I was in the military, I worked in a construction unit, I worked maintenance in a factory...I am still a woman. :rolleyes:
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
don't forget homosxuality.
We should definitely not forget that gay sex NEVER results in unintended pregnancy. There are no problems with abortion or child neglect.
By removing the stigma, perhaps young people who are in no position to give a child so much as a gestation period will take homosex as an alternative. Much to everybody's benefit.
Tom
 

Robert.Evans

You will be assimilated; it is His Will.
Men dont become women nor women become men by merely what they do. That is utterly ridiculous. I was in the military, I worked in a construction unit, I worked maintenance in a factory...I am still a woman. :rolleyes:
Are you sure? I think that is a shame that you do those things, I really do. You lose your femininity and judge yourself of what men do, which also is a shame. It seems You don't value woman and femininity.
 

Robert.Evans

You will be assimilated; it is His Will.
He was addressing irresponsible behavior. Heterosexuals can be just as irresponsible as homosexuals. He summed it all up by just saying sex.
I was addressing irresponsible behavior also.
I could just imagine you in the military :p
 

Robert.Evans

You will be assimilated; it is His Will.
We should definitely not forget that gay sex NEVER results in unintended pregnancy. There are no problems with abortion or child neglect.
By removing the stigma, perhaps young people who are in no position to give a child so much as a gestation period will take homosex as an alternative. Much to everybody's benefit.
Tom
We should also not forget the deseases that go with it and the way aids spread through the gay population and that HIV is still most prevelant in gays or that the body is not designed for their "hobby". haha
 

Draka

Wonder Woman
Are you sure? I think that is a shame that you do those things, I really do. You lose your femininity and judge yourself of what men do, which also is a shame. It seems You don't value woman and femininity.
I haven't lost any "femininity". You are being absurd.
 

Robert.Evans

You will be assimilated; it is His Will.
I haven't lost any "femininity". You are being absurd.
You were in the military, so how can you still be feminine? Perhaps you don't know what it means? all things are relative I guess. (I notice the tone is changing.)
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
Break down gender molds and stereotypes and let our next generation grow up without their gender determining who and what they can be.
You're up against millions of years of evolution.
I'm absolutely for the unusual guy who wants to do child care to have the freedom. And we definitely could do better at NOT reinforcing the instincts. But I don't think men, as a group, are going to get into child care the way women as a group do.
Tom
 

Draka

Wonder Woman
I was addressing irresponsible behavior also.
I could just imagine you in the military :p
I was. I was an Avionics technician for anti-sub helos. I worked on the radar navigation, communications, and sonar systems for these:
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This bird is actually from my last command. HS-10 out of NAS North Island.
 

Robert.Evans

You will be assimilated; it is His Will.
You're up against millions of years of evolution.
I'm absolutely for the unusual guy who wants to do child care to have the freedom. And we definitely could do better at NOT reinforcing the instincts. But I don't think men, as a group, are going to get into child care the way women as a group do.
Tom
What if we really push it and all men become more feminine. What happens if the rest of the world decide to go to war? Will we all sit about crying ?
 

Draka

Wonder Woman
You were in the military, so how can you still be feminine? Perhaps you don't know what it means? all things are relative I guess. (I notice the tone is changing.)
What on Earth does my being in the military have to do with femininity? Just what do you think femininity and masculinity are anyway?
 

Robert.Evans

You will be assimilated; it is His Will.
I was. I was an Avionics technician for anti-sub helos. I worked on the radar navigation, communications, and sonar systems for these:
1557834.jpg

This bird is actually from my last command. HS-10 out of NAS North Island.
This is what I love about you, there are always so many pictures. ;)

So does that entail you being in them, flying them, or on the ground?
 

Robert.Evans

You will be assimilated; it is His Will.
What on Earth does my being in the military have to do with femininity? Just what do you think femininity and masculinity are anyway?
Gee, I don't know. Is masculine shooting flowers at some one, and feminine wearing really thick heels and not washing? :p
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
We should also not forget the deseases that go with it and the way aids spread through the gay population and that HIV is still most prevelant in gays or that the body is not designed for their "hobby". haha

The subject here is irresponsible procreation.
But the fact remains that your post is flat out wrong. Two virgins having homosex, using condoms if male, are as disease proof as an elderly married heterosexual couple.
Tom
 

Draka

Wonder Woman
This is what I love about you, there are always so many pictures. ;)

So does that entail you being in them, flying them, or on the ground?
Mostly on the flightline repairing them. Have flown in a few. Had one time where I sat co-pilot for a test flight (just basic start up and controls and hover) and the pilot (though he shouldn't have really) showed me how to start up everything and how to work all the controls. Was fun.
 

Robert.Evans

You will be assimilated; it is His Will.
The subject here is irresponsible procreation.
But the fact remains that your post is flat out wrong. Two virgins having homosex, using condoms if male, are as disease proof as an elderly married heterosexual couple.
Tom
not normal though Tom is it, I mean, come on... stop making out it is quite normal with no repercussions. The mental problems alone should make you pause for thought.
 
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