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Female Pedophiles & Sexual Predators

Paranoid Android

Active Member
I am going to tell you a secret: WOMEN also commit pedophilia and sexual assault. Yet men are often accused of it. Women get looked over because people naturally expect men to be pedophiles and secual assaulters.
Even when their caught, they don't often get imprisoned for the same amount of years a man does. I saw one female pedophile's lawyer claim she would be raped if she got locked up. Excuse me if this seems brutal, but who gives a *()_^%$#@ ? I don't. Men have been raped and killed and no one gave a damn about it. She should, IMH, been imprisoned and as unfortunate as it sounds, been raped by the women if they were inclined to it. Now I'm not advocating it should happen, but such things happen to men and women all the time, and I don't think she should be exempted from it. It might remind her what it feels like to be a child and have an adult FORCE themselves on them.
What do you think ? Should a women go to prison, even if it means she'll be raped ? Why do we always trust women with our children ? Do women do such evil acts and act like subhumans for the same reason that men do ? Should we sterilize these subhuman females so they don't have more children to victimize ?
 

Paranoid Android

Active Member
I'm not going to show more concern for a female child molester or sexual predator then I will for a man. Men are imprisoned for 15 years for there drime. Often they are raped in prison. In some prisons they slide a knife under your cell door with a message that they need to kill you or YOU WILL BE KILLED. Feminism teaches equality among the genders. I approve that idea as well. So why shouldn't they withstand the same abuse men go through ?
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I'm not going to show more concern for a female child molester or sexual predator then I will for a man. Men are imprisoned for 15 years for there drime. Often they are raped in prison. In some prisons they slide a knife under your cell door with a message that they need to kill you or YOU WILL BE KILLED. Feminism teaches equality among the genders. I approve that idea as well. So why shouldn't they withstand the same abuse men go through ?
No one should go thru such abuse in prison (or outside it).
But imprisoned people don't matter much to society.
They're all guilty, you know. (Sarchasm alert!)
Were they innocent, government wouldn't have put'm there.
So they deserve whatever heinous evil befalls them.

Even in the 'progressive' media (eg, "Law & Order", rape & other
assaults in prison are used as threats to the accused (males).
If we accept the notion of "rape culture", its predominant problem
is tacit approval of prison rape & torture (eg, solitary confinement).
 

dust1n

Zindīq
No one should go thru such abuse in prison (or outside it).
But imprisoned people don't matter much to society.
They're all guilty, you know.
(Were they innocent, government wouldn't have put'm there.)
Even in the 'progressive' media (eg, "Law & Order", rape & other
assaults in prison are used as threats to the accused (males).
If we accept the notion of "rape culture", its predominant problem
is tacit approval of prison rape & torture (eg, solitary confinement).

Agreed. Though the whole prison rape thing is largely a myth. Some of the numbers I had looked at was 3%-4% of the entire prison population, which is unacceptable of course. I do find it uncomfortable when people cheer on criminals being raped in prison, even if it doesn't actually happen all that often.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Agreed. Though the whole prison rape thing is largely a myth. Some of the numbers I had looked at was 3%-4% of the entire prison population, which is unacceptable of course. I do find it uncomfortable when people cheer on criminals being raped in prison, even if it doesn't actually happen all that often.
It isn't a myth if this 3% to 4% number is true.
(About 2,200,000 are in US prisons.)
This is still on the order of 100,000 rape victims....by whatever frequency your percentage is based upon.
Additionally, the crime would likely befall the youngest offenders.
 

Paranoid Android

Active Member
I don't cheer it. I just acknowledge it happens and if it happens to men, then I see no reason that a women should not be exposed to it. Gender equality calls for equality in terms of there treatment. If that is so, then there is no reason women shouldn't have to face possible death and possible rape. In fact, if I ever go out on a date, she better bring me flowers.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I don't cheer it. I just acknowledge it happens and if it happens to men, then I see no reason that a women should not be exposed to it. Gender equality calls for equality in terms of there treatment. If that is so, then there is no reason women shouldn't have to face possible death and possible rape. In fact, if I ever go out on a date, she better bring me flowers.
The reason women shouldn't be exposed to it is the same reason men shouldn't.
One evil doesn't justify another for the sake of equality.

Some more info on the "myth" of prison rape.....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prison_rape_in_the_United_States
In 2001, Human Rights Watch estimated that at least 140,000 inmates had been raped while incarcerated.[1] A United States Department of Justice report, Sexual Victimization in Prisons and Jails Reported by Inmates, states that "In 2011-12, an estimated 4.0% of state and federal prison inmates and 3.2% of jail inmates reported experiencing one or more incidents of sexual victimization by another inmate or facility staff in the past 12 months or since admission to the facility, if less than 12 months."[2] However, advocates dispute the accuracy of the numbers, saying they seem to under-report the real numbers of sexual assaults in prison, especially among juveniles.[3]
 
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dust1n

Zindīq
It isn't a myth if this 3% to 4% number is true.

The myth isn't that prison rape happens. The myth being, if you go to prison, you are going to be raped.

(About 2,200,000 are in US prisons.)
This is still on the order of 100,000 rape victims....by whatever frequency your percentage is based upon.
Additionally, the crime would likely befall the youngest offenders.

Still unacceptable. Presumably, you should be free to exist without a prison without the threat of rape from staff and inmates. But given that we are talking about arguably the most violent segment of the human population, I'm still surprised that numbers appear as low as they do.

Prison rape commonly refers to the rape of inmates in prison by other inmates or prison staff. In 2001, Human Rights Watch estimated that at least 140,000 inmates had been raped while incarcerated.[1] A United States Department of Justice report, Sexual Victimization in Prisons and Jails Reported by Inmates, states that "In 2011-12, an estimated 4.0% of state and federal prison inmates and 3.2% of jail inmates reported experiencing one or more incidents of sexual victimization by another inmate or facility staff in the past 12 months or since admission to the facility, if less than 12 months."[2] However, advocates dispute the accuracy of the numbers, saying they seem to under-report the real numbers of sexual assaults in prison, especially among juveniles.[3]

A meta-analysis published in 2004 found a prevalence rate of 1.91% with a 95% confidence interval between 1.37–2.46%.[4] In a survey of 1,788 male inmates in Midwestern prisons by Prison Journal, about 21% claimed they had been coerced or pressured into sexual activity during their incarceration, and 7% claimed that they had been raped in their current facility.[5] According to the study conducted by the United States Department of Justice for the year 2006, there were 2,205 allegations of inmate-on-inmate non-consensual sexual acts reported in the U.S. prison system, 262 of which were substantiated.[6]

Research has shown that juveniles incarcerated with adults are five times more likely to report being victims of sexual assault than youth in juvenile facilities,[7] and the suicide rate of juveniles in adult jails is 7.7 times higher than that ofjuvenile detention centers.[8]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prison_rape_in_the_United_States

Of course, if you are transgender, that might be a whole different story.
 

dust1n

Zindīq
I don't cheer it. I just acknowledge it happens and if it happens to men, then I see no reason that a women should not be exposed to it. Gender equality calls for equality in terms of there treatment. If that is so, then there is no reason women shouldn't have to face possible death and possible rape. In fact, if I ever go out on a date, she better bring me flowers.

Um, I think the more reasonable approach would be to achieve equality by having no one going to face death or rape from other inmates, not allow more death or rape of female prisoners to potentially match a potentially higher rate in male prisons.
 

dust1n

Zindīq
I don't think the idea that everyone gets raped in prison has ever been put forth. At least, I've never heard such a claim.

You can imagine a large field of numbers between 4% and 100%, at which the publication imagination probably falls between those two numbers.

No one has made the claim that everyone in prison is going to get rape. It's just often implied that a trip to prison will equate to eventual rape.

A female is much more likely to raped in the general population than a male is to be raped in prison, as far as I can tell. The later just seems to be condoned or considered funny, or view as something that does not to be combated at all for some reason, though humans generally have a propensity for revenge, etc.
 

Paranoid Android

Active Member
Um, I think the more reasonable approach would be to achieve equality by having no one going to face death or rape from other inmates, not allow more death or rape of female prisoners to potentially match a potentially higher rate in male prisons.
BU


I don't think ANY prisoner should be raped or sexually assaulted. BUT I say if NO PROTECTION IS OFFERED TO THE MALE PRISONERS then female prisoners should not be offered any assistance in rape or sexual assault matters. After all, Feminism teaches it is trying to make things EQUAL among males and females. If this is so, and males are being raped or sexually assaulted THEN females should have to face such events, JUST AS MALES DO. Now, if the prison tries to stop MALE RAPES BY OTHER MALES, then by making things equal among males and females, THEY SHOULD STOP FEMALE RAPES BY OTHER FEMALES.
I want things EQUAL among males and females. Equal in time they are prisoned, equal in deaths, equal in beatings and EQUAL IN TERMS OF RAPES.

Obviously, YOU DON'T WANT THAT TO HAPPEN ***ANYONE***.*******ANYONE*******. But, IF IT HAPPENS TO ***ANYONE***, IT SHOULD NOT HAPPEND TO ANY ONE GENDER. Again, this has to do with gender equality.
 

dust1n

Zindīq
BU


I don't think ANY prisoner should be raped or sexually assaulted. BUT I say if NO PROTECTION IS OFFERED TO THE MALE PRISONERS then female prisoners should not be offered any assistance in rape or sexual assault matters.

[quoteAfter all, Feminism teaches it is trying to make things EQUAL among males and females. If this is so, and males are being raped or sexually assaulted THEN females should have to face such events, JUST AS MALES DO. Now, if the prison tries to stop MALE RAPES BY OTHER MALES, then by making things equal among males and females, THEY SHOULD STOP FEMALE RAPES BY OTHER FEMALES.
I want things EQUAL among males and females. Equal in time they are prisoned, equal in deaths, equal in beatings and EQUAL IN TERMS OF RAPES.

Obviously, YOU DON'T WANT THAT TO HAPPEN ***ANYONE***.*******ANYONE*******. But, IF IT HAPPENS TO ***ANYONE***, IT SHOULD NOT HAPPEND TO ANY ONE GENDER. Again, this has to do with gender equality.

Number one, it's entirely unnecessary to bold, underline, and capitalize your points. Save yourself the effort, and just type what you mean to say. None of the flourishes make it more readable or understandable.

Secondly, prison rape isn't something that is totally unaddressed. There are already people who try to address these things. It's also not the fault of female criminals that males are in general, more violent and rapier than females.

Thirdly, if you are concerned about equality to the point that your conclusions is that more people should be raped, then you got a lot of male general population to rape before the general male population is raped anywhere near the rate the general female population is.
 

Kilgore Trout

Misanthropic Humanist
You can imagine a large field of numbers between 4% and 100%, at which the publication imagination probably falls between those two numbers.

No one has made the claim that everyone in prison is going to get rape. It's just often implied that a trip to prison will equate to eventual rape.

A female is much more likely to raped in the general population than a male is to be raped in prison, as far as I can tell. The later just seems to be condoned or considered funny, or view as something that does not to be combated at all for some reason, though humans generally have a propensity for revenge, etc.

Still, even if 4% were correct (which, from what I found, is on the low side for estimates, and accurate figures are deemed impossible to actually know), then 1/25 prisoners being raped or sexually assaulted hardly falls under the label of "myth."

I'm not sure what your particular idea is of how many people get raped in prison or not, but if even 4% people are getting raped in prison, then it's certainly not a dismissible risk, let alone a myth.
 

Paranoid Android

Active Member
Number one, it's entirely unnecessary to bold, underline, and capitalize your points. Save yourself the effort, and just type what you mean to say. None of the flourishes make it more readable or understandable.

Secondly, prison rape isn't something that is totally unaddressed. There are already people who try to address these things. It's also not the fault of female criminals that males are in general, more violent and rapier than females.

Thirdly, if you are concerned about equality to the point that your conclusions is that more people should be raped, then you got a lot of male general population to rape before the general male population is raped anywhere near the rate the general female population is.

The point is gender equality. Things are NOT equal between male and females. For example, I feel that since there are a lot of places where females are exploited for males sexual interest, that females should have a place where males and females are exploited for females sexual interest. In addition, I feel that females should have the SAME rights males do.

However, there is a negative side to this. If we acknowledge females as being strong and independent, then females should face the same sentences that males do for pedophilia and sexual assault. They should also face being killed, the same problem male pedophiles and sexual assaulters face. It is NOT fair to claim privledges that males are excluded from. Males should , if they want to, stay at home and take care of the children. Males should marry a rich woman and be taken care of by her. I do not believe that males should be judged only on there work or how much money they have. I believe that basically is a form of exploitation by women. Everything, in terms of rights, emotions, opening the door should be equal between males and females.

I believe that females are not suspected as a a pedophile or sexual assaulter. I believe they should, and unless we have evidence to the contrary, people should not naturally assume that a male or males are pedophiles or sexual assaulters. The thing I see is equality among the genders.
 

dust1n

Zindīq
Still, even if 4% were correct (which, from what I found, is on the low side for estimates, and accurate figures are deemed impossible to actually know), then 1/25 prisoners being raped or sexually assaulted hardly falls under the label of "myth."

I'm not sure what your particular idea is of how many people get raped in prison or not, but if even 4% people are getting raped in prison, then it's certainly not a dismissible risk, let alone a myth.

Oh, then I misspoke. When I said "the whole prison rape thing is largely a myth" my intentions were not to imply that there in no prison rape. What I should have said "the whole prison rape thing is a largely exaggeration and is often perceived to be far more common then it actually is." Also, I've already stated multiple times, including in that particular post, that I find it in poor taste to be cheering or condoning for prisoners to be raped.

But, now that I've been taken to task, I see that women getting raped in the general population is around 4 or 5 (ignoring the fact that both sets of numbers are under reported or unknown) more common than a male to get raped in a prison, so prison rape just fell a couple notches on my priority list.
 

dust1n

Zindīq
The point is gender equality. Things are NOT equal between male and females. For example, I feel that since there are a lot of places where females are exploited for males sexual interest, that females should have a place where males and females are exploited for females sexual interest. In addition, I feel that females should have the SAME rights males do.

However, there is a negative side to this. If we acknowledge females as being strong and independent, then females should face the same sentences that males do for pedophilia and sexual assault.

Good thing no person has ever been sentenced to prison rape.

They should also face being killed, the same problem male pedophiles and sexual assaulters face. It is NOT fair to claim privledges that males are excluded from.

Or, maybe prisoners, in general, shouldn't be in danger in violence.

Males should , if they want to, stay at home and take care of the children. Males should marry a rich woman and be taken care of by her. I do not believe that males should be judged only on there work or how much money they have. I believe that basically is a form of exploitation by women. Everything, in terms of rights, emotions, opening the door should be equal between males and females.

Um, if males want to stay at home, marry a rich woman, take care of kids, they are already been free to do that. Um, as far as being judged for your money or by their work, sorry people judge one another for stupidity? Personally, all the women I know have generally been measured up by their looks. At least money and work are things you and I have control of, and also, I literally couldn't get the smallest care for any particular judgment anyone has about me or the amount money I make, whether they are male or female, and I do expect why anyone cares when they are judged unfairly. It's basically the nature of the human condition to routinely be judged unfair by other human idiots who don't take your or my plight or understanding seriously.

I believe that females are not suspected as a a pedophile or sexual assaulter. I believe they should, and unless we have evidence to the contrary, people should not naturally assume that a male or males are pedophiles or sexual assaulters. The thing I see is equality among the genders.

Do people naturally assume that male or males are pedophiles or sexual assaulter? Totally new to me. I've literally known hundreds of guys, and I've never assumed one of them to be a pedophile or someone who committed a sexual assault. Come to think of it, I don't think of anyone as that unless I come to find out that they are. I mean, I realize that female child abusers are often granted leniency by dudes who think it's a male child's wish to bone their teacher and all, but I take any such claim with as much seriousness as any other matter.
 

Deathbydefault

Apistevist Asexual Atheist
I am going to tell you a secret: WOMEN also commit pedophilia and sexual assault. Yet men are often accused of it. Women get looked over because people naturally expect men to be pedophiles and secual assaulters.
Even when their caught, they don't often get imprisoned for the same amount of years a man does. I saw one female pedophile's lawyer claim she would be raped if she got locked up. Excuse me if this seems brutal, but who gives a *()_^%$#@ ? I don't. Men have been raped and killed and no one gave a damn about it. She should, IMH, been imprisoned and as unfortunate as it sounds, been raped by the women if they were inclined to it. Now I'm not advocating it should happen, but such things happen to men and women all the time, and I don't think she should be exempted from it. It might remind her what it feels like to be a child and have an adult FORCE themselves on them.
What do you think ? Should a women go to prison, even if it means she'll be raped ? Why do we always trust women with our children ? Do women do such evil acts and act like subhumans for the same reason that men do ? Should we sterilize these subhuman females so they don't have more children to victimize ?

Ignoring the structure of your OP, and focusing on the point...

Yes, equality is good.
Women should be as equally persecuted as men for the same crime.

You've hit a wall here, though.
This OP should have been presented in a more rational way.
When reading it I feel as though I'm hearing my childhood priest giving praise to Jesus and damning the non-believers.

"For the righteousness of equality women must suffer the same amount of persecution and prison violence as men!
Their mental health be damned! Their reasons be damned! Their lives be damned!"
Is basically what I read.
 
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