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The death of atheism - soundwaves look like Hebrew letters

Seeker of Ka

Asetian
Let me fix that for you.

I have looked at all kinds of pseudoscience and accepted it on faith alone, I then called it evidence.

Let me explain this to you in the only way you can receive it.

I have had experiences that has complelty absolved me off all doubt that at least some aspects of the paranormal exists. However I cannot prove that I have experienced this and I do not have a motive to. If you would like to try some paranormal research of your own, scepticis are extremely useful in the paranormal field and separates Paranormal Investigation from Paranormal Confirmation.
 

Bunyip

pro scapegoat
Let me explain this to you in the only way you can receive it.

I have had experiences that has complelty absolved me off all doubt that at least some aspects of the paranormal exists. However I cannot prove that I have experienced this and I do not have a motive to. If you would like to try some paranormal research of your own, scepticis are extremely useful in the paranormal field and separates Paranormal Investigation from Paranormal Confirmation.
I'm sure that some aspects of the paranormal do exist, but are simply yet to be explained.
 

outhouse

Atheistically
I have had experiences that has complelty absolved me off all doubt that at least some aspects of the paranormal exists.

The human mind is weak, perception of reality is often skewed.

Sometime people are in altered states of consciousness self induced, that can bring in many different results.
 

outhouse

Atheistically
. However I cannot prove that

Let me explain it to YOU so YOU understand.


You cannot prove it because it did not take place out of the human mind.

A soul or spirit is not something that scientifically exist in reality at this time outside mythology.


There is a good reason there is no credible evidence, and there is a good reason they have the title paranormal.


NOW as far as the OP, it is a study that gives your kind a bad name, by promoting wish and want OVER credible factual evidence that shows what a crock this amounts to.
 
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Kilgore Trout

Misanthropic Humanist
I have studied tons of material and evidence in my decades on spirituality and the paranormal and have become convinced of what I beleve is the most reasonable worldview. What can I possible say in a short reply post that will satisfy a critic who is intent on disagreeing? These subjects require personal interest and self-inquiry. There is no magic short-cut.

In other words, years and years of complied confirmation bias has convinced you that things that are irrational and unevidenced are actually rational and evidenced, and when asked to supply something resembling empirical data, you can't actually provide anything specific other than your years and years of compiled confirmation bias.

You do understand why this looks rather silly and more than a bit humorous from the outside, don't you?
 

George-ananda

Advaita Vedanta, Theosophy, Spiritualism
Premium Member
In other words, years and years of complied confirmation bias has convinced you that things that are irrational and unevidenced are actually rational and evidenced, and when asked to supply something resembling empirical data, you can't actually provide anything specific other than your years and years of compiled confirmation bias.

You do understand why this looks rather silly and more than a bit humorous from the outside, don't you?
No, it just appears to me you become more insulting the more unsure you really are.
 

Kilgore Trout

Misanthropic Humanist
No, it just appears to me you become more insulting the more unsure you really are.

I'm not unsure in any way, shape, or form about how unempirical your views are, nor have you countered anything I've ever addressed which would show me otherwise. Although, I do keep waiting with baited breath for you to, someday, provide something resembling evidence which supports any of your claims.
 

Unification

Well-Known Member
I'm sure that some aspects of the paranormal do exist, but are simply yet to be explained.

That's how I see it. "Para" and "mystery" or "phenomena" would be the same. If it's normal to an individual, the word "para" wouldn't be necessary. Everything is natural and normal. No, "super" or "para" required. It leads to too much confusion and assumption. All mysteries and phenomena could fall under a category of "super" natural or "para" normal, yet still be "just" natural and normal. Either the universe is all natural, or the universe is a complete fraud. I can't see any in between. The universe being mysterious, unknown, phenomenal, doesn't make it a fraud.
 

Jayhawker Soule

-- untitled --
Premium Member
In other words, years and years of complied confirmation bias has convinced you that things that are irrational and unevidenced are actually rational and evidenced, and when asked to supply something resembling empirical data, you can't actually provide anything specific other than your years and years of compiled confirmation bias.

You do understand why this looks rather silly and more than a bit humorous from the outside, don't you?
Of course not.
 

atanu

Member
Premium Member
I'm not unsure in any way, shape, or form about how unempirical your views are, nor have you countered anything I've ever addressed which wou.........

Just asking. How sure are you that you know about this "I" that is claiming to be very sure?
 

atanu

Member
Premium Member
That is not even remotely true. The natural world does exist.

Who said that it does not? However, natural world does not come and say "I exist". It is we who see and know it. Natural world can never be proven to exist separate from one's cognition.
 

Seeker of Ka

Asetian
Let me explain it to YOU so YOU understand.


You cannot prove it because it did not take place out of the human mind.

A soul or spirit is not something that scientifically exist in reality at this time outside mythology.


There is a good reason there is no credible evidence, and there is a good reason they have the title paranormal.


NOW as far as the OP, it is a study that gives your kind a bad name, by promoting wish and want OVER credible factual evidence that shows what a crock this amounts to.

I know that you are wrong however I cannot force you to experience something you will not involve yourself in.
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
LuisDantas said:
That is not even remotely true. The natural world does exist.

Who said that it does not? However, natural world does not come and say "I exist". It is we who see and know it. Natural world can never be proven to exist separate from one's cognition.

A very good point indeed. I agree with you.
Regards
 

outhouse

Atheistically
I know that you are wrong

You THINK I am wrong, since you factually cannot substantiate your claims, you cannot factually know I m wrong.

I cannot force you to experience something you will not involve yourself in.

I know all these topics well, and when and have studied these at the highest level of experience.

I have a decade of testing the results of water witches daily, as well as being able to witch water at a professional level. So you have no knowledge of what I do or do not know n this topic because I refuse to entertain your admitted unsubstantiated claims
 

Seeker of Ka

Asetian
You THINK I am wrong, since you factually cannot substantiate your claims, you cannot factually know I m wrong.

Yes I can, I have experienced things that I cannot show to you. Therfore I KNOW that I am correct, however I do not expect for you to beilive me becuase I have no means to show you over a forum post.
 

outhouse

Atheistically
Yes I can, I have experienced things that I cannot show to you
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Its called perception. YOU perceived that something took place.

Therfore I KNOW that I am correct

You know you think you witnessed something. Again the human brain is weak. Hallucinations to willful viewing.


There is nothing you can factually provide that will substantiate anything happened outside your consciousness/brain
 
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