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06-17-2006, 10:44 PM
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How long will it be until I am enlightened?
asking for trouble
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Student "How do you expect to make a mirror by polishing a brick?" Teacher "How do you expect to gain enlightenment by practicing meditation?" 
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08-20-2006, 10:16 PM
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The Zen teacher and writer Steve Hagen said that enlightenment was available to all of us in this present moment. He went one step further to say that all of us were already enlightened...it was just whether we realized this or not.
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"My mind is my church."---Thomas Paine---
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#3
08-20-2006, 11:02 PM
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I belive the Tao Te Ching says in the first chapter
"If you can describe the Tao, then it is not the Tao, if you can name it, it is not the Tao (Paraphrasing)
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#4
08-20-2006, 11:12 PM
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4 years 3 months 12 days and 43 seconds
pay attention or u might miss it
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08-20-2006, 11:31 PM
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 I sat in lotus position in front of a portrait of Paramhansa Yogananda and in time the spirit of light spoke from within: The Age of Aquarius is upon you. Self Realization is so '70s. If you are not now enlightened, so shall you never be. 
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Jesus did not come into this world to make bad people good. He came into this world to make dead people live - Ravi Zacharias  I wasn't born again yesterday - A.S.A. Jones
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#6
08-21-2006, 12:08 AM
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The tao that can be told is not the eternal Tao The name that can be named is not the eternal Name. Rings a whiter shade of pale... to paraphrase that : The indefinable is the stuff of life... farmboy's words... but I'm a simple fella.
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Tao There's A Flavour of Metal for EVERYONE Mark 4:40 "Then he said to the disciples, `Why do you fear? Do you not believe in God?' "
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#7
08-23-2006, 06:09 AM
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"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." Bertrand Russell Namaste, Engyo
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#8
08-23-2006, 05:49 PM
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08-23-2006, 07:43 PM
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the Buddha encouraged his followers to let go of their cravings, preferences, and desires in order to become enlightened. and yet had he not fervently desired to become enlightened himself, he would not have had his epiphanies under the bodhi tree and would not have been able to teach the Dharma.
i like the "you are already enlightened" answer, but it can ring hollow and become a catch-all answer. my own practice has been to understand enlightenment not as something one comes to after a long time, but something which reveals itself day by day. one day gives us many opportunities to act with compassion, mindfulness, forgiveness, and responsibility. maybe these things we do right and the fruits of our right effort are themselves tastes of enlightenment...
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"Daughter, your faith has healed you. Go in peace, and be freed from your suffering."
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#10
09-02-2006, 12:17 PM
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Enlightenment is an eternal not an external quality to "realize". It unveils the delusions of what we are in this life and what we see and think we know.
It is the falling away of what we thought was reality. I guess it can be obtained at any moment.....the real enlightenment, however, IMHO, is retained for all times.
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Our thoughts become our words, our words become our deeds, our deeds become our karma.
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