We are becoming gods (beliefs, creation, scriptures, God, verse)

[michel]

Originally Posted by tom_mich

I have never committed any crime. Do anything to help others. Have auto- deductions from my bank account to chosen charities, and I didn't need a religion to tell me how to live.

Honesty, care, respect for life all came from my parents values.

Religion does educate some people on how to live, but obvsiouly Christians can still be criminals, even Mr. Bush starts wars that kills tens of thousands of people.

I am merely pointing out that science is understanding and knowledge, and some of these sciences are brand new and booming. We can manipulate life and soon create life, and if we discover that life can be started naturally, which we already have good supporting facts it should, then eventually, not 100 years, not perhaps 1000 years, but in 10,000 or 20,000 years, I cannot see how people will still believe in god when we will know so much.

Why is it that the greeks no longer believe in Zeus?

I think what you say is very valid from your perspective; you have the stance of an atheist, and of course that is your choice.

The point you make about morals is a perfectly valid one; no one needs to be religious to have a good set of morals. As you say, religious people can be immoral, just as immoral as anyone else. Of course, even though I can see that what you say is fine for you, it isn't the way I see things............"each to his own"

[Mike182]

Originally Posted by tom_mich

I have never committed any crime. Do anything to help others. Have auto- deductions from my bank account to chosen charities, and I didn't need a religion to tell me how to live.

Honesty, care, respect for life all came from my parents values.

Religion does educate some people on how to live, but obvsiouly Christians can still be criminals, even Mr. Bush starts wars that kills tens of thousands of people.

I am merely pointing out that science is understanding and knowledge, and some of these sciences are brand new and booming. We can manipulate life and soon create life, and if we discover that life can be started naturally, which we already have good supporting facts it should, then eventually, not 100 years, not perhaps 1000 years, but in 10,000 or 20,000 years, I cannot see how people will still believe in god when we will know so much.

Why is it that the greeks no longer believe in Zeus?

Mr. Bush??? christian????


that lies in the history of a repression, they did not drop their religion by choice

In the late 4th century, the Imperial courts were predominantly Christian; Christianity had relatively few internal quarrels; and a deep conviction that right belief, orthodoxy, was what mattered to God. The Christian emperors closed pagan oracles, temples and end the pagan games by degrees, in a series of increasingly stringent decrees. Finally, the public practice of the Greek religion was made illegal by the Emperor Theodosius I and this was enforced by his successors. The Greek religion, stigmatized as "paganism", the religion of country-folk (pagani) - other scholars suggest the force of paganus was "(mere) civilian" - survived only in rural areas and in forms that were submerged in Christianized rite and ritual, as Europe entered into the Dark Ages.
[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_religion]

[QTpi]

Hi Tom_Mich. Welcome to Religious Forums. We're happy to have you with us and hope you enjoy your stay.

[Katzpur]

You know, I find this thread very offensive. Maybe I'm over-reacting, but I'm hearing you say that it is impossible to be both intelligent and a believer in a Higher Power. That strikes me as an incredibly arrogant attitude. People (even some very intelligent ones) will continue to believe in God as long as there are people on this earth. I don't see it as having anything at all to do with intelligence.

[Katzpur]

Originally Posted by Seyorni

Hey! I resemble that!
I'm a Hindu and I don't have >1,000 Gods!

Hi, Seyorni.
I didn't know you were a Hindu. Your profile says Vedanta. Is that a sect or division of some sort within the Hindu religion? Thanks in advance for educating me.

[Darkdale]

Originally Posted by Katzpur

Hi, Seyorni.
I didn't know you were a Hindu. Your profile says Vedanta. Is that a sect or division of some sort within the Hindu religion? Thanks in advance for educating me.

I may be mistaken, but I believe Vedanta is a Hindu philosophic-sect focusing on Brahman as the Ultimate unifying force in the universe.

[The Black Whirlwind]

Originally Posted by tom_mich

Why is it that the greeks no longer believe in Zeus?

the rise of christianity, and the fall of Rome.

[Seyorni]

Originally Posted by Katzpur

Hi, Seyorni.
I didn't know you were a Hindu. Your profile says Vedanta. Is that a sect or division of some sort within the Hindu religion? Thanks in advance for educating me.

What Darkdale said --

[tom_mich]

Well, sorry to be offensive. And you are right....intelligence has nothing to do with it.

It is merely the search for understanding, as the way I see it. Of course, I was a bit blunt, so as to see the reaction. Thanks for all the comments.