Non-magick Wiccans (ritual, tradition, religion, shaman, witchcraft)

[Fluffy]

Are there any Wiccans here who either do not practice magick or do not believe that it exists? I have heard of Wicca without the magick a few times now but I have never met anyone who practiced it nor read any books on the subject. I would be interested to hear from anyone who has any information on this topic .

[Circle_One]

I have a close friend who is Wiccan but doesn't practice magick. It is an extremely common misconception that to be Wiccan one must practice magick and she very often gets flack from fluffs who believe this misconception, constantly telling her she is not a "true" Wiccan because if she were, she would know that Wicca and Magick go hand in hand, but that simply is not the case. I am not Wiccan, but I do know a lot about it, as I do Wiccans who don't spellcast. I would be happy to answer any questions I am able to.

[Prima]

'tis true It's important to remember that just like any other religion, Wicca has its...sects, I guess you would call them. I practice Hawaiian Shamanic Wicca, which has magic as an integral part. I think it's more usual for there to be Wiccans who don't practice magic rather than ones who don't believe it exists. Also, there are different kinds of magic practices. I'd be happy to nose around and see if I can find an informative book or website about Wicca sans magick. I'd be happy to answer questions if you want me to, but I doubt I can give a satisfactory answer!

[Circle_One]

Originally Posted by Prima

I think it's more usual for there to be Wiccans who don't practice magic rather than ones who don't believe it exists.

I'm not sure I'm in accordance with this statement Prima. Actually, on second though, I'm on the fence. I've met more people who claim to be Wiccan, but who also claim that one must practice magick in order to be Wiccan, than I have actual Wiccans who know the truth, but as I said, now that I think about it, the kids who claim to be Wiccan and assert that you must practice magick in order to be a "true" Wiccan, aren't truly Wiccan at all. If they were, they would know that is not the case.

I think I've just run into more fluffs than I have actual Wiccans.

I think the main misconception of Wicca is that Magick is the main part of the religion, when infact it is not. There are, of course, differing traditions that have magick as a main part of their practice, but for the most part, spellcasting and ritual performing in Wicca is on the back-burner. This misconception, IMHO, comes from all these hollywood media-ized versions of Wicca and Witchcraft that makes all these teenagers want to become a part of this religion as a means of practicing magick--which is where a lot of the fluffs I've ran into come in, I believe.

[Prima]

*blink blink*

But...I agree with you. What are you disagreeing with?

[Prima]

Oh, wait, on second thought, I see what you're saying.

[Circle_One]

No, I know. That is why I changed my statement. First I said I didn't agree, then I changed my mind, saying I was on the fence and going on to explain my reasoning--the fact that I've ran into more fluffs than actual Wiccans. Sorry for the confusion, I tend to ramble a lot in my posts because there's so much I want to get out and it all ends up coming out completely jumbled, lol.

[Circle_One]

Originally Posted by Prima

Oh, wait, on second thought, I see what you're saying.

Yeah, see, it just takes time to catch onto the confusing ramblings of C1

[Prima]

Yeah, it took me a while I've run into 'fluffs' too - they drive me nuts

*blows you a kiss*

[Feathers in Hair]

Are we using the term 'fluff' to describe those drawn to Wicca because of media, or a way of describing 'happiness and light' pagans? (I know the term has been used to describe each, so I just wanted to make sure.)