white vs. black (ritual, beliefs, pray, Christianity, God)

[Circle_One]

It's already been said, but I figure I shall put the same idea into my own words. There is no such thing as black/white magick for magick has no color. It is the heart and soul of the practitioner which decides whether the outcomes of the magick practiced will be benefitial or detrimental to themselves and/or others around them. All magick is derived from the same source.

[RainMoonGrey]

Let us not forget as well, the Wiccan Rede which quotes in part..."Eight words the Witches Rede Fulfill, And it harms ye none do as ye will." This to say that whatever one does in the name of Wicca and magick must be done in good faith and for the perpetuation of good causes. Black magic would suggest otherwise and is in no part endorsed, supported or created by anything Wiccan.

No matter what religion you are, we are still all human. Us humans will be as we will- regardless of religious creed, though may defend by such.

[Circle_One]

Originally Posted by RainMoonGrey

Let us not forget as well, the Wiccan Rede which quotes in part..."Eight words the Witches Rede Fulfill, And it harms ye none do as ye will." This to say that whatever one does in the name of Wicca and magick must be done in good faith and for the perpetuation of good causes. Black magic would suggest otherwise and is in no part endorsed, supported or created by anything Wiccan.

No matter what religion you are, we are still all human. Us humans will be as we will- regardless of religious creed, though may defend by such.

But this still would suggest that black magick exists in and of itself as a form of magick, which is does not. Black magick is a term coined by practitioners who wished to frighten others by exclaiming they are capable of doing "bad" magick. Whether good or bad, magick is still just magick. "Good" spell workings are not white magick and "bad" spell workings are not black magick.

People may wish to call curses, hexes, etc. "Black magick" but it is a false term and no matter how many people say otherwise, it will always be a false term.

[michel]

Quote :-[For a wiccan, shaman, taoist, pagan, etc... seeing a tree bud is magic. Watching a stream flow is magic. For an artist, painting is magic, music is magic. For another, it may just be boring old nature, or just a boring piece of colored canvas, or just another song. But to an open spiritual person, its magical. Don't be so closed minded Anglo.]

Hey Master Vigil;

I always seem to 'fit in' with your replies. Perhaps I'm a simple person (as in uncomplicated), but to me everything created by God is beautiful, and full of magic. Every day I wonder at all that nature has to offer, and I feel humble.

[Isis-Astoroth]

To sum up: Magic, is magic.

[RainMoonGrey]

Yeah...I guess it's just the term in which we choose to coin things. Language can be a funny thing. Personally, I do believe that people can wish ill will and perform these ill wills and negativity in some form of ritual that may be considered by themselves to be "magic".
Perhaps it would be more appropriate to name them "black intentions" or "intentions of ill will" versus "intentions of good will". No sense in putting a color-label to it as that can be subjective. It's not about what we do but the intentions in which we do it.

[Circle_One]

Originally Posted by RainMoonGrey

Yeah...I guess it's just the term in which we choose to coin things. Language can be a funny thing. Personally, I do believe that people can wish ill will and perform these ill wills and negativity in some form of ritual that may be considered by themselves to be "magic".

That was the point I was trying to make Rain. There IS such thing as harmful magick, there really are curses and hexes, but the point I was saying is that all in all, it's still just "magick" nothing before it, nothing after it. The power one uses to cast a harmful spell or curse comes from the same source as the power one uses to cast a healing spell and other beneficial castings. The only difference between the two is the will and power of the practitioner casting said spells, that is what makes the magick good or bad, not the source itself because the source of all magick is completely neutral.

[kreeden]

That which heals , can also harm .

Something I read somewhere .

[cfer]

Originally Posted by michel

Hey Master Vigil;

I always seem to 'fit in' with your replies. Perhaps I'm a simple person (as in uncomplicated), but to me everything created by God is beautiful, and full of magic. Every day I wonder at all that nature has to offer, and I feel humble.

Perhaps your a taoist?

[Master Vigil]

Originally Posted by cfer

Perhaps your a taoist?

HEHE... I think everyones a taoist, they just use different terms.