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Old 09-04-2008, 03:49 PM
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It would seem that out of all the known Pagans belifes that Wicca seem to be shunded by some fellow Pagans, anyone care to shed any light on why this maybe? I think my problem is not so much Wicca has it is Gardner.



I've never really felt that Garner was really right in the head in 1847 he met a women named Annie Besant shes was intrested in Rosicrucianism ( A Mesopagan occult leader foucsed on a highly Christianized form of Sexual mysticism. Keep in mind that they were a theatre group, inside they claimed to a a covern called New Forest covern which laid claim to be a group of underground Witch which kept the old religion alive.

Many of the members were very old & close to death. some of thier belifes were incomplete & so Gardner took it upon himself to write new rituals, customs & belifes. Now if these were truly some of the last real Witches ever why would they allow Gardner to add his ideas to thier religion?

To many people untill this very day Gardner was a dirty old man & made Wicca up on his own from people he ran across in his travels.

I am not trying to knock the religion but I believe that Gardner was a bit off his rocker.


Yes I copy & pasted this from another topic I was just too lazy to re-type it.
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When I say that I'm Pagan, almost everyone then asks, "oh you're Wiccan?" And I have to explain that there's more to Paganism than just Wicca. To me, that just gets tiring, and I would assume that it can be the same for others as well.
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When I say that I'm Pagan, almost everyone then asks, "oh you're Wiccan?" And I have to explain that there's more to Paganism than just Wicca. To me, that just gets tiring, and I would assume that it can be the same for others as well.
Well, it's better than "Oh, you're a Satanist"?
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Well, it's better than "Oh, you're a Satanist"?
I'll give you that

Luckily, I haven't had that yet... and I don't know how I'd react if it happens...
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Well, it's better than "Oh, you're a Satanist"?

I have but it's more Satan worshipper lol
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I have but it's more Satan worshipper lol
Well, the folks who would make such comments aren't likely to know the difference between Satanism and devil worship anyway.
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Well, the folks who would make such comments aren't likely to know the difference between Satanism and devil worship anyway.

So true.
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I think it's because many 'dabblers' call themselves Wiccan, without any real knowledge of Wicca at all. And their antics become associated with Wicca, even though what they practice is some bastardized made it up as they went along, Wicca wannabe mish mash.

Also, as others mentioned, the resentment of pagans of other trads who are tired of having to explain that YES, they are pagan, but no they are NOT Wiccan, don't do the Lady/Lord thing, don't call themselves witches, etc.

I was involved in the pagan community for years before I met a Wiccan who actually knew something about the faith and practiced it in any significant way. I'd met hundreds of "Wiccabes" before that though who did whatever they felt was interesting at the time and labeled it Wicca.

My knee jerk reaction when I meet someone and they tell me they are Wiccan is an eye roll....because 95% of the people who've announced that to me in the first five minutes of our acquaintance were silly, self attention seekers who considered watching a full season of "Charmed" to be equal to an initiation.
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It would seem that out of all the known Pagans belifes that Wicca seem to be shunded by some fellow Pagans, anyone care to shed any light on why this maybe? I think my problem is not so much Wicca has it is Gardner.
Some of it might have something to do with the controversy surrounding Gavin and Yvonne Frost's Good Witches Bible, which contains questionable material concerning the initiation of just pubescent children (ages 9-11) into Wicca. (I can't provide a link just yet, as I've not made more than 15 posts.)

I'm not saying this is the case, but it certainly contributes, I would think.

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