What do all Wiccan's believe? (Earth, beliefs, experience, atheist)

[Mike182]

ok, the New Forest Coven!

Rudolf Hess is a German guy, leading figure in the Nazi party, adviser to Hitler himself, and an occultist.

Ian Flemming plays a big role in Naval Intelligence during the war, and he got the fun task of spreading false information and rumor to leak through to the Germans. given that Hess was an occultist, he talked to many English occultists, like Gardner, Crowley etc. to get decent information on the sort of rituals occultists use.

after researching it all, in the spring of 1941, Flemming stages an event at New Forest where he got 12 marines to get robed up in black sheets with lots of masonic symbolism on them to do a ritual. i don't know the specific ritual that they did, something that involved a magic mirror, a dummy of Hitler and a lot of chanting...

[MaddLlama]

So, then New Forest was a hoax? What's the connection with Gardner and Clutterbuck?

[Mike182]

Originally Posted by MaddLlama

So, then New Forest was a hoax? What's the connection with Gardner and Clutterbuck?

Clutterbuck is the woman Gardner claimed initiated him into witchcraft... he claimed that she was part of the New Forest Coven, but no evidence has ever been produced to support that.

[MaddLlama]

Originally Posted by Mike182

Clutterbuck is the woman Gardner claimed initiated him into witchcraft... he claimed that she was part of the New Forest Coven, but no evidence has ever been produced to support that.

Hmm.

Do you know if he knew Crowley before this?

[Mike182]

Originally Posted by MaddLlama

Hmm.

Do you know if he knew Crowley before this?

erm, let me think.... Crowley initiated Gardner into the OTO, but i don't know when that was...

[Moonshadow]

Interesting thread, I am new here and havent looked at page 2 yet but I wanted to say that there are times when I am rather Agnostic, when I doubt the full spectrum of my path and why I am on this path and I think thats very normal so I would say that a person can be slightly Agnostic and remain Wiccan, also I only deal with The Goddess, I have not had any communication with any God so while I agree that balance is very important and that there is likely a God somewhere around, I do not worry about it because Its not part of my path.

I have encountered many who would tell me I am not Wiccan because I only deal with The Goddess and am Agnostic at times but to me a Wiccan is someone who reveres and honors at the very least a Goddess, practices Magic (I do this but rarely and only as a last result), follows the rede, the law of return, the wheel, waits for major changes to occur, etc.

Ive been Wiccan a long time so I am not happy when someone comes along and tells me I am not Wiccan, lol, anyways, just my two cents.

Blessed Be!
Moonshadow

[Gentoo]

Originally Posted by Moonshadow

Interesting thread, I am new here and havent looked at page 2 yet but I wanted to say that there are times when I am rather Agnostic, when I doubt the full spectrum of my path and why I am on this path and I think thats very normal so I would say that a person can be slightly Agnostic and remain Wiccan, also I only deal with The Goddess, I have not had any communication with any God so while I agree that balance is very important and that there is likely a God somewhere around, I do not worry about it because Its not part of my path.

I have encountered many who would tell me I am not Wiccan because I only deal with The Goddess and am Agnostic at times but to me a Wiccan is someone who reveres and honors at the very least a Goddess, practices Magic (I do this but rarely and only as a last result), follows the rede, the law of return, the wheel, waits for major changes to occur, etc.

Ive been Wiccan a long time so I am not happy when someone comes along and tells me I am not Wiccan, lol, anyways, just my two cents.

Blessed Be!
Moonshadow

When I was Wiccan, I dealt mostly with the God and was agnostic towards the Goddess I'm still not very Goddess oriented though..

[Reverend Rick]

I would like to know more about Lady Frieda Harris