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[Willamena]

Originally Posted by MysticSang'ha

I think this is the reason why I particularly love Marianne Williamson's quote so much:

Marvelous quote, very empowering.

[zenzero]

Friends,
Interesting reading the POSTS.
understanding is that when the individual merges with the UNIVERSAL during meditation the INDIVIDUAL no longer reamins the individual BUT becomes a PART of the WHOLE and so no enlightened person has spoken of that experience as HE was not there as an individual to bring back any thing.
Ymir GF you can understand that one cannot be aware of NIRVANA. Once attained the individual is lost. Buddha is not a person/individual but a state. State where it is back to existence. Its a hollow bamboo, a still lake etc. Whatever you throw it just reflects back to you. No reactions. No reactions are not because the person is not there it is because the MIND in that individual is CLEAR is a NO-MIND is a blank space.
Love & rgds

[vandervalley]

There seems to be an interest in how Buddhists (I guess generally speaking) regard vegetarianism. Penguino, would you like to start a thread on it in Same Faith Debates under Dharmic religions?

Will do.

penguino did u start a thread on this topic? because if u did then I'd like to join in as well

[MysticSang'ha]

Originally Posted by vandervalley

penguino did u start a thread on this topic? because if u did then I'd like to join in as well

Yes, he did.

Dharmic religions - The Buddha on eating meat, should it be forbidden?




Peace,
Mystic

[vandervalley]

So what is Tibetan Buddhists' ultimate goal? Is it to achieve Arahant-hood or Buddhahood?

I ask this because I heard from somewhere that Theravada Buddhists' ultimate goal is only to achieve arahant-hood.

[Engyo]

VV -

I think this distinction is mostly semantics.......by one definition there is only one "Buddha" per world-system per set of dharma-ages. That one is the one who awakens by him/herself and begins turning the Wheel (teaching the Dharma). All others who awaken through those teachings would be given another title (whether it be arahant {arhat}, small "b" buddha, or other title).

Other folk use Buddha for any who awaken. So, it comes mostly back to semantics.

[vandervalley]

by one definition there is only one "Buddha" per world-system per set of dharma-ages.

yep I agree with this sentence.

However I was asking for the ultimate goal in the long run; spanning many lifes after this.

[MysticSang'ha]

Originally Posted by vandervalley

yep I agree with this sentence.

However I was asking for the ultimate goal in the long run; spanning many lifes after this.

The ultimate goal, in the long run, tends to run the same line as other Mahayana schools of thought, and that is to attain enlightenment for the sake of all sentient beings. It's a bit different than Theravada, where individual liberation is stressed, and the concept of the Bodhisattva does not exist as it does in Mahayana. Vajrayana considers itself to be under the umbrella of Mahayana, so it is quite similar.

Does that answer your question?




Peace,
Mystic

[YmirGF]

Originally Posted by zenzero

Friends,
Interesting reading the POSTS.
understanding is that when the individual merges with the UNIVERSAL during meditation the INDIVIDUAL no longer reamins the individual BUT becomes a PART of the WHOLE and so no enlightened person has spoken of that experience as HE was not there as an individual to bring back any thing.
Ymir GF you can understand that one cannot be aware of NIRVANA. Once attained the individual is lost. Buddha is not a person/individual but a state. State where it is back to existence. Its a hollow bamboo, a still lake etc. Whatever you throw it just reflects back to you. No reactions. No reactions are not because the person is not there it is because the MIND in that individual is CLEAR is a NO-MIND is a blank space.
Love & rgds

I don't wish to degrade this lovely thread on subjects you clearly have a limited grasp of. I used to think the way you have described, but my experience has grown well beyond these imaginary "goal posts". You are into Koans. Perhaps you may understand why I call Nirvana/Nibbana "Buddha's little joke". The thing is, you don't "get" the joke until you reach the destination and then you see the incredible humor in it. Unlock my riddle and you will understand far more than you may suspect.

Originally Posted by MysticSang'ha

... to attain enlightenment for the sake of all sentient beings...

That would seem to me to be a splendidly worthy goal. Personal liberation is the easy road. Dragging the sparrows up to the height of the eagles is the only game in town, really. Personally I don't want full enlightenment 'til I am assured that I will have lots of company on my future endeavors. It's a dirty job, but some folks have got to do it, eh?

[zenzero]

YmirGF,
Thanks for your response/comments.
Love & rgds