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[lilithu]

Originally Posted by zenzero

Friend M.S.,
The reason for the question was obvious; its about attachment.
Marriage is an attachment.
Your response.
Love & rgds

As Mystic has said in another thread, one can become overly attached to the concept of non-attachment.

[MaddLlama]

Originally Posted by zenzero

HAHAHAHAHAHA,
Attachments are those which results in pain without them around.

Your apparent attachment to this forum causes me pain, because I have to read your posts. They are quite painful.

[lilithu]

Originally Posted by zenzero

Beg to differ on the point of UNITARIAN UNIVERSALISM and Buddha nature.
In your unitarian universilsm there is still that flame. One still exists whereas in Buddha nature there is no trace of one also.
Its is very interesting to note that TAOISM and BUDDHISM were so close in understanding as TAO too means the same as buddha nature or NOTHINGNESS. This is the reason that these two religions merged and ZEN came out of it. The best or peak of human concuiousness.

"Nothingness" is not nihilism. It is nothing because it is everything.

How can you claim "nothingness" and also claim the "best of peak of human consciousness" unless you understand this?

[YmirGF]

Originally Posted by lilithu

"Nothingness" is not nihilism. It is nothing because it is everything.

How can you claim "nothingness" and also claim the "best of peak of human consciousness" unless you understand this?

I would suggest that if people believe in a great big pile of smoldering "nothingness" then that is precisely what they will get for their efforts or lack thereof.

ZenZero, I know well the "nothingness" of which you speak and I am just rather insistent that there is MUCH beyond that minor "barrier". You could actually think of it as a buffer zone "where" the observer resides until they have lost their attachment to their preconceptions about how reality should behave. Again, there is MUCH beyond this supposedly "final" state. What I am getting at is this isn't the last stage... it is the first stage on a very different kind of journey using a very different kind of perception and consciousness.

[zenzero]

Friend YmirGF,
Well, cannot deny what you state; as have no experience of beyond NOTHINGNESS.
If at all any; it is NOTHINGNESS expanding in depth, becoming more profound.
Yes time is eternal and open to anything that comes; hereafter/ thereafter.
Friend Lilithu,
Sorry no one can claim anything; at best can claim an understanding.
What you mentioned about Nothing being Everything is correct.
Life starts from there and ends there and that point is there in every individual.
The miracles of few enlightened persons are nothing but connecting this individual nothing/everything with the universal nothing/everything and allow the cycle of life to start from that point though it may appear to be a individual point.
YmirGF may be reffering to this situation in his response. Please do clarify, if there is any differences in our understanding.
Love & rgds

[vandervalley]

I would suggest that if people believe in a great big pile of smoldering "nothingness" then that is precisely what they will get for their efforts or lack thereof.

ZenZero, I know well the "nothingness" of which you speak and I am just rather insistent that there is MUCH beyond that minor "barrier". You could actually think of it as a buffer zone "where" the observer resides until they have lost their attachment to their preconceptions about how reality should behave. Again, there is MUCH beyond this supposedly "final" state. What I am getting at is this isn't the last stage... it is the first stage on a very different kind of journey using a very different kind of perception and consciousness.

if u achieved "nothingness" then how can u have a perception or a consciousness? If u have a perception or consciuosness or a journey then ur far from "nothingness"

[YmirGF]

Originally Posted by vandervalley

if u achieved "nothingness" then how can u have a perception or a consciousness? If u have a perception or consciuosness or a journey then ur far from "nothingness"

That is precisely the point. When one perceives that "nothingness" and it does seem to be entirely void and empty, with subsequent "visits" one realizes that there is still the observer's viewpoint. I'm my humble opinion, the observer creates the link between the nothingness and the everything. My perception is that if in fact identity vanished, the viewpoint or perception of the observer vanished, then we would never have heard of this state, as no one would be able to remember it after experiencing it.

To my thinking, there would simply be a blank spot in ones meditations. It is my belief that Buddha understood this well and realized that anyone who realized the state after him would understand what he meant. This is why I call it Buddha's little joke because it is essential to get to that boundary area (the void) in order to get to the goodies beyond that barrier. The kicker is that there are no verbal symbols to describe anything beyond the void with any accuracy and that is why I feel he decided to leave his comments at that, knowing people would figure it all out if and when they got There.

[MysticSang'ha]

Originally Posted by zenzero

Friend M.S.,
The reason for the question was obvious; its about attachment.
Marriage is an attachment.
Your response.
Love & rgds

Marriage is regarded as a social convention. So are dress codes.




Peace,
Mystic